Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
knowledge_is_king
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Date: July 11, 2012 09:18PM
Apologies for the negativity of the last post, I just get frustrated by his forced metaphors and the responses from the "thank you" brigade.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
HerbertKane178
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Date: July 12, 2012 12:12AM
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knowledge_is_king
Apologies for the negativity of the last post, I just get frustrated by his forced metaphors and the responses from the "thank you" brigade.
I get your point.
I've said it before, but worth repeating, I cannot understand why Universal Medicine has a presence on Facebook when they obviously deride it so much. It would seem hugely hypocritical to dismiss Facebook in the way Serge does in his status updates, and yet use it as a tool to communicate with his students. It's a bit like writing 'electricity is bad and wrong and you should not engage with it' while composing that text on a computer in room lit by electric lamps (hope this is not one of those forced metaphors, KIK!).
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
MacReady
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Date: July 12, 2012 04:19AM
"So why use this forum as a place to seek connection/recognition/fame/likes/friends you never meet when it is full of mega astral rips and currents?" - SB.
Good question, Serge. why DO you do all of the above? I mean, apart from further controlling your followers (who slavishly seek connection with you and 'like' your every post) and keep the money flowing in.
"Be wise, and see this as a pure comment forum and not a place of discussion or philosophy as some have been channelled to think it is". - SB.
Translation: Be wise, and stop considering/sharing any spiritual/philosophical material on Facebook unless it is Serge's Also do not discuss any real-world issues on Facebook, as they would distract you from focussing all your energy on Serge and UM. Furthermore, any interest in discussing or sharing on any topic or post not approved by UM had been channelled to you by astral forces, ie. you're being controlled by entities if you use Facebook for any purpose beyond fawning over Serge's every utterance.
And the majority of followers drop to their knees and give thanks for another dose of manipulative brain-washing.
Gosh, what will some people do without a self-declared 'hierarchical master' taking them for a ride?
Good question, Serge. why DO you do all of the above? I mean, apart from further controlling your followers (who slavishly seek connection with you and 'like' your every post) and keep the money flowing in.
"Be wise, and see this as a pure comment forum and not a place of discussion or philosophy as some have been channelled to think it is". - SB.
Translation: Be wise, and stop considering/sharing any spiritual/philosophical material on Facebook unless it is Serge's Also do not discuss any real-world issues on Facebook, as they would distract you from focussing all your energy on Serge and UM. Furthermore, any interest in discussing or sharing on any topic or post not approved by UM had been channelled to you by astral forces, ie. you're being controlled by entities if you use Facebook for any purpose beyond fawning over Serge's every utterance.
And the majority of followers drop to their knees and give thanks for another dose of manipulative brain-washing.
Gosh, what will some people do without a self-declared 'hierarchical master' taking them for a ride?
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
knowledge_is_king
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Date: July 12, 2012 05:32AM
Exactly mate, well said. I think that was more of a simile anyway ;)Quote
HerbertKane178Quote
knowledge_is_king
Apologies for the negativity of the last post, I just get frustrated by his forced metaphors and the responses from the "thank you" brigade.
I get your point.
I've said it before, but worth repeating, I cannot understand why Universal Medicine has a presence on Facebook when they obviously deride it so much. It would seem hugely hypocritical to dismiss Facebook in the way Serge does in his status updates, and yet use it as a tool to communicate with his students. It's a bit like writing 'electricity is bad and wrong and you should not engage with it' while composing that text on a computer in room lit by electric lamps (hope this is not one of those forced metaphors, KIK!).
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
COncerned Partner
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Date: July 12, 2012 07:13AM
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lifetruetome
This was on Serge's facebook account. It is his latest update. If this isn't "controlling" of all esoteric students facebook comments, then I don't know what is: He is totally into mind control!!!
We all know that swimming is done in water. Wisely, you do not swim in any water, that is, you do not swim where you know there are rips or currents that can sweep you away - right? So why use this forum as a place to seek connection/recognition/fame/likes/and friends you never meet when it is full of mega astral rips and currents? Gosh, what will some do without an astral rip taking them for a ride? Be wise, and see this as a pure comment forum and not a place of discussion or philosophy as some have been channeled to think it is. - Serge
I think it is worthy of more deconstruction.
First and foremost, it is clear that Serge is not much of a thinker, hence why he is attracted to (extremely) non-rational ideas and how he has connected dots that don't exist and convinced himself over time he is lots of things he is clearly not. Like most of the things he says/writes, it doesn't make the point very well. His excuse of course is it is energetic, but I am sure if we go back to his school days, we will find his essays were 1/10 and lots of red ink and question marks. However, he is wily, because he has used this glaring deficiency to his advantage- he even has well educated people batting along side him believing his cover story, so he must feel pretty chuffed.
Secondly, as lifetruetome points out, he wants to control the conversations and how his students behave. Is this the sign of a group on the path to self discovery, where everyones opinions and thoughs/feelings are considered and their is healthy discussions and questions of say, of a non-mind control group? Clearly not. Ergo, Serge is showing his hand and intention to control the group, their actions, their thoughts, their behaviour, and their minds. He is sending out a cult leader edict in the guide of 'wisdom', with an insinuation of derision- connection/recognition/fame/likes/and friends He has also thrown some key terms in such as "Astral' and " Channeling' which are esoteric code for "your mind is under the control of an entity"- well, yes it is. It is under Serge's control students.....and if you read carefully, there is also a hint of caution which shows his well founded paranoia- and friends you never meet
Here is a rule of thumb about what Serge says: If he says something about someone else, he means himself. If he derides someone else, it means he is losing control and doesnt like it. If he says your mind is under the control of outside forces, he means HIS forces.
Serge, everything you say reveals more of your true character and motivations to the wider world. I would be less concerned with the inane and sycophantic remarks of a a few of your misguided students, and more with your own childish and revealing comments; and with the trail of delusional material you have spread across the internet and in volumes of printed material. There will come a day when your poor followers will see you for what you are. I wonder if you will ever have the self honesty required to admit your delusion when that time comes, or whether you will behave like all other cult leaders before you, once the veil is drawn-back. We in the pranic world are waiting with bated-breath.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2012 07:24AM by COncerned Partner.
lifetruetome
This was on Serge's facebook account. It is his latest update. If this isn't "controlling" of all esoteric students facebook comments, then I don't know what is: He is totally into mind control!!!
We all know that swimming is done in water. Wisely, you do not swim in any water, that is, you do not swim where you know there are rips or currents that can sweep you away - right? So why use this forum as a place to seek connection/recognition/fame/likes/and friends you never meet when it is full of mega astral rips and currents? Gosh, what will some do without an astral rip taking them for a ride? Be wise, and see this as a pure comment forum and not a place of discussion or philosophy as some have been channeled to think it is. - Serge
I think it is worthy of more deconstruction.
First and foremost, it is clear that Serge is not much of a thinker, hence why he is attracted to (extremely) non-rational ideas and how he has connected dots that don't exist and convinced himself over time he is lots of things he is clearly not. Like most of the things he says/writes, it doesn't make the point very well. His excuse of course is it is energetic, but I am sure if we go back to his school days, we will find his essays were 1/10 and lots of red ink and question marks. However, he is wily, because he has used this glaring deficiency to his advantage- he even has well educated people batting along side him believing his cover story, so he must feel pretty chuffed.
Secondly, as lifetruetome points out, he wants to control the conversations and how his students behave. Is this the sign of a group on the path to self discovery, where everyones opinions and thoughs/feelings are considered and their is healthy discussions and questions of say, of a non-mind control group? Clearly not. Ergo, Serge is showing his hand and intention to control the group, their actions, their thoughts, their behaviour, and their minds. He is sending out a cult leader edict in the guide of 'wisdom', with an insinuation of derision- connection/recognition/fame/likes/and friends He has also thrown some key terms in such as "Astral' and " Channeling' which are esoteric code for "your mind is under the control of an entity"- well, yes it is. It is under Serge's control students.....and if you read carefully, there is also a hint of caution which shows his well founded paranoia- and friends you never meet
Here is a rule of thumb about what Serge says: If he says something about someone else, he means himself. If he derides someone else, it means he is losing control and doesnt like it. If he says your mind is under the control of outside forces, he means HIS forces.
Serge, everything you say reveals more of your true character and motivations to the wider world. I would be less concerned with the inane and sycophantic remarks of a a few of your misguided students, and more with your own childish and revealing comments; and with the trail of delusional material you have spread across the internet and in volumes of printed material. There will come a day when your poor followers will see you for what you are. I wonder if you will ever have the self honesty required to admit your delusion when that time comes, or whether you will behave like all other cult leaders before you, once the veil is drawn-back. We in the pranic world are waiting with bated-breath.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2012 07:24AM by COncerned Partner.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
John lazuras
()
Date: July 12, 2012 01:47PM
Hi All,
Please read the below points that have been recently discussed at Natalie Benhayon Esoteric Womens Presentation in England in recent months. These are extracts from the notes from the group on what was discussed…..in their words.
1. “Since Natalie presented about periods and the period diary every single women who has tried having a period using pads instead of tampons has loved it and had the most amazing period ever. Even those who were very challenged by the idea of using pads instead of tampons have found them to be much more supportive of their body.
The initial imprint of creating the tampon came from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance and ‘I just want to keep going’. Once this energy is removed from the body it is much easier to connect with the true energy of our cervix, to connect with our preciousness.
Serge then came on stage and said that the energy of a tampon in our body is like having sex with the dirtiest guy you know all the way through your period.
Serge can present to a group of women and us feel at ease with him because he energetically holds the energy of a true women very deeply in his body.”
2. “Natalie asked if the woman in the back would like to ask a question……It is like having sex with the company (Tampax).
It was Serge!
He then joined Natalie on stage.
Would you put one in your behind?……..yet your cervix is more sacred.
Think of the worse man you can think of. You are walking around with his penis inside you.
It is most important to have a relationship with your body first.
Serge then continued the presentation.”
3.” Natalie said - Teenage girls are not asked out to prom nights or special occasions now; but shown porn sites and said lets go and do this in our break time.
At 15 you are now defined by your “hand job or your” blow job “and they are all doing it so it has become part of the norm. If you want to be in the “in-crowd” now you have to say yes. Before if you were easy and slept around you would have been known as a slut.”
Now these are my comments;
Serge you are an imbecile to say what you said in the above two points 1 & 2 you are very disrespectful to all females. How you can take such a private topic and make some type of ESOTERIC meaning / teachings from it is stupid and very worrying. What you have said above is against all principles of ESOTERIC teachings, and I and I believe many others find your words sickening and very disturbing on the way you have portrayed the use of a tampon being used by women.
You should be offering support not ridicule.
All the women from UM I apologise for Serges behaviour and comments here, I know you would not stand around and let any other male or person talk so disrespectfully about how and why you use a tampon……so to all the women at this EWP what were your thoughts when Serge said the above comments because these are not ESOTERIC loving comments.
Natalie – you to are an imbecile, every year I see and know many young women going to Proms and Deb balls and enjoying these functions, What you have stated above in point 3 is also a very disrespectful comment about 15 year old girls. You have painted all girls into this category which is not correct and wrong, where you get your information from, because it is wrong and what you are saying is dangerous.
Is it because at these functions they don’t play ESOTERIC music and perform the dance of the ESOTERIC way, you should be offering support and praise to the young girls of today and encouraging them to develop into young women and not feed them BS that you have stated above.
This shows your lack of training and knowledge, go to a real University and study and be graded from real people and obtain a real Degree not an ESOTERIC degree that Serge has given you. Once you have this and start to talk some sense then you will gain some credibility in your words.
Please read the below points that have been recently discussed at Natalie Benhayon Esoteric Womens Presentation in England in recent months. These are extracts from the notes from the group on what was discussed…..in their words.
1. “Since Natalie presented about periods and the period diary every single women who has tried having a period using pads instead of tampons has loved it and had the most amazing period ever. Even those who were very challenged by the idea of using pads instead of tampons have found them to be much more supportive of their body.
The initial imprint of creating the tampon came from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance and ‘I just want to keep going’. Once this energy is removed from the body it is much easier to connect with the true energy of our cervix, to connect with our preciousness.
Serge then came on stage and said that the energy of a tampon in our body is like having sex with the dirtiest guy you know all the way through your period.
Serge can present to a group of women and us feel at ease with him because he energetically holds the energy of a true women very deeply in his body.”
2. “Natalie asked if the woman in the back would like to ask a question……It is like having sex with the company (Tampax).
It was Serge!
He then joined Natalie on stage.
Would you put one in your behind?……..yet your cervix is more sacred.
Think of the worse man you can think of. You are walking around with his penis inside you.
It is most important to have a relationship with your body first.
Serge then continued the presentation.”
3.” Natalie said - Teenage girls are not asked out to prom nights or special occasions now; but shown porn sites and said lets go and do this in our break time.
At 15 you are now defined by your “hand job or your” blow job “and they are all doing it so it has become part of the norm. If you want to be in the “in-crowd” now you have to say yes. Before if you were easy and slept around you would have been known as a slut.”
Now these are my comments;
Serge you are an imbecile to say what you said in the above two points 1 & 2 you are very disrespectful to all females. How you can take such a private topic and make some type of ESOTERIC meaning / teachings from it is stupid and very worrying. What you have said above is against all principles of ESOTERIC teachings, and I and I believe many others find your words sickening and very disturbing on the way you have portrayed the use of a tampon being used by women.
You should be offering support not ridicule.
All the women from UM I apologise for Serges behaviour and comments here, I know you would not stand around and let any other male or person talk so disrespectfully about how and why you use a tampon……so to all the women at this EWP what were your thoughts when Serge said the above comments because these are not ESOTERIC loving comments.
Natalie – you to are an imbecile, every year I see and know many young women going to Proms and Deb balls and enjoying these functions, What you have stated above in point 3 is also a very disrespectful comment about 15 year old girls. You have painted all girls into this category which is not correct and wrong, where you get your information from, because it is wrong and what you are saying is dangerous.
Is it because at these functions they don’t play ESOTERIC music and perform the dance of the ESOTERIC way, you should be offering support and praise to the young girls of today and encouraging them to develop into young women and not feed them BS that you have stated above.
This shows your lack of training and knowledge, go to a real University and study and be graded from real people and obtain a real Degree not an ESOTERIC degree that Serge has given you. Once you have this and start to talk some sense then you will gain some credibility in your words.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
knowledge_is_king
()
Date: July 12, 2012 08:36PM
John, I agree with you. The first principle when counselling or teaching or dealing with young people is that you don't put them down. How stupid is she? If you say to a young girl "you're a slut" or "all young girls are sluts" which is essentially the same thing, it is like a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're quite right the issue isn't with the individual but with societal norms, education, parenting, and opportunity. This is why councils and schools build play equipment and skate parks in areas where vandalism and petty crime are common, the intention is to help provide positive motivation for the kids. This is also one of the reasons why children and adolescents are encouraged to take up sport at school, it teaches them the benefits of working as a team, helps gives them direction and most importantly keeps them healthy and develops physical and mental awareness. And your right again that if she did have proper accredited certification in this field she would know there was greater power in a positive message than breaking someone down to fit them to your perfect mould. Disgraceful. I feel sorry for any impressionable females in the audience I hope they have a strong family network to help them get past the harm done in this exhibition.Quote
John lazuras
Now these are my comments;
Serge you are an imbecile to say what you said in the above two points 1 & 2 you are very disrespectful to all females. How you can take such a private topic and make some type of ESOTERIC meaning / teachings from it is stupid and very worrying. What you have said above is against all principles of ESOTERIC teachings, and I and I believe many others find your words sickening and very disturbing on the way you have portrayed the use of a tampon being used by women.
You should be offering support not ridicule.
All the women from UM I apologise for Serges behaviour and comments here, I know you would not stand around and let any other male or person talk so disrespectfully about how and why you use a tampon……so to all the women at this EWP what were your thoughts when Serge said the above comments because these are not ESOTERIC loving comments.
Natalie – you to are an imbecile, every year I see and know many young women going to Proms and Deb balls and enjoying these functions, What you have stated above in point 3 is also a very disrespectful comment about 15 year old girls. You have painted all girls into this category which is not correct and wrong, where you get your information from, because it is wrong and what you are saying is dangerous.
Is it because at these functions they don’t play ESOTERIC music and perform the dance of the ESOTERIC way, you should be offering support and praise to the young girls of today and encouraging them to develop into young women and not feed them BS that you have stated above.
This shows your lack of training and knowledge, go to a real University and study and be graded from real people and obtain a real Degree not an ESOTERIC degree that Serge has given you. Once you have this and start to talk some sense then you will gain some credibility in your words.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
Eric Dobbs
()
Date: July 12, 2012 09:40PM
Hi Folks,I've just read the last page and I gotta ask the the question " Are there no limits to the Benhayon family's lack of intellectual acuity ?" Let me remind you we are dealing with an organization run by a person who is profoundly STUPID, DOMINEERING and worst of all IGNORANT and ILL- EDUCATED. I now realise why the Oxford Dictionary has deemed it necessary to include the term BOGAN in it's latest edition. On the positive side peoples, we are about to reach the 6 month mark of this Forum with 55 pages of mostly intelligent critical debate and stories exposing this pernicious institution. The site will have had nearly 19,000 visits which is the equivalent of over 100 visits a day,so some people out there are either enjoying the banter or are in tacit agreement with most of us here. Well done one and all - let's keep it real. Don't forget if you feel the urge to contact politicians or the relevant medical authorities about this lot, the email addresses are on page 53 or thereabouts. - over and out Eric Dobbs
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
HerbertKane178
()
Date: July 13, 2012 04:03AM
Quote
John lazuras
The initial imprint of creating the tampon came from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance and ‘I just want to keep going’. Once this energy is removed from the body it is much easier to connect with the true energy of our cervix, to connect with our preciousness.
Serge then came on stage and said that the energy of a tampon in our body is like having sex with the dirtiest guy you know all the way through your period.
Serge can present to a group of women and us feel at ease with him because he energetically holds the energy of a true women very deeply in his body.”
2. “Natalie asked if the woman in the back would like to ask a question……It is like having sex with the company (Tampax).
It was Serge!
He then joined Natalie on stage.
Would you put one in your behind?……..yet your cervix is more sacred.
Think of the worse man you can think of. You are walking around with his penis inside you.
It is most important to have a relationship with your body first.
Serge then continued the presentation.”
This all sounds very misguided. Having sex with the Tampax Company? Anal tampon insertion? Hope no-one from Proctor and Gamble was in the audience. Not a company I imagine who are keen on their good name being tarnished.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
MacReady
()
Date: July 13, 2012 08:27AM
Elaborating on the absolutely insane claims Serge and Natalie have apparently made; how is 'the initial imprint' of a pad (as opposed to a tampon) NOT "from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance (and 'I just want to keep going')" since they essentially serve exactly the same purpose, while differing in their application? How is a woman using a pad or panty-liner not like having the hand of 'the dirtiest guy she knows' in her underwear all through her period?
If the above information is indeed accurate, then no critic of UniMed could invent more damning material to discredit the worldview SB presents. Please, I implore you: keep digging that hole for yourself, Serge. It's increasingly evident that your grip on reality is extremely questionable, to put it mildly.
If the above information is indeed accurate, then no critic of UniMed could invent more damning material to discredit the worldview SB presents. Please, I implore you: keep digging that hole for yourself, Serge. It's increasingly evident that your grip on reality is extremely questionable, to put it mildly.
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