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COncerned Partner
It appears as if a group of well meaning Universal Medicine members have formed an independent advocacy group to tackle the issue of people on forums, ie me and the other two dozen concerned citizens and partners who have been voicing concerns about Universal Medicine. [www.realmediarealchange.org]

We know they had a think tank a few months back, and we know they decided to attack the 'problem' head on. But I wonder why it was billed as an 'independent advocacy group' when in fact the agenda of Universal Medicine is clearly spelled out in its pages, even using typical UM adjectives and phrases. Since the conference convener is none other than the lovely Sarah Davis who is also a contributor to their blogs, often in reaction to negative media around Universal Medicine, I think that the fair thing to have done would been to have highlighted that connection to the speakers so they knew for whom they really rallied.

This is their stated agenda:

Cyber-harassment is the 'the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others.' It can be as simple as continuing to send email to someone who said they want no further contact with the sends, but may also included making false accusations, threats, sexual remarks, and using pejorative labels (ie, hate speech) Examples includes harassment via a mobile phone, setting up a defamatory personal website, ganging up on victims by making them the subject of ridicule in forums and posting false statements as facts aimed at humiliation.

Clearly the group think that the negative commentary about UM and their leader is about them. I have combed back through this forum and also through the other ‘offending’ blogs, and while there are sarcastic comments about people acting in a cultish manner (say for example, setting up a conference and not declaring the supporters and agenda with the long term aim of censoring opposing views) the remarks are actually about Serge and UM and the effects on his followers and their families. Of course, the members of the group probably do believe that we are making unfounded statements because they have not been motivated to examine if what we are saying is true. We won’t convince them, but rest assured, it is all correct; and what’s more, there is more to it then we dare say here. In time they will know that even if they try to avoid it by having opposing views shut down because it is ‘trolling’ or ‘hate speech’ (which is how they all characterise an alternative view on their love blogs)

Now speaking of love blogs, check this from one of their sites. It appears to me that they contradict themselves yet again by indulging like pigs in shit in the very behaviour they accuse others of. Interesting, I have not seen one post from anyone out here in the real world that comes anywhere near this pejorative, hate filled post about two men we know who have been cut off from their families due to the cult. The men I believe are just speaking their truth, and the truth. Nothing else. I am sure they have not said one negative thing about a group member personally, yet that doesn’t stop Kyla ripping them apart in a vindictive and childish way. And if the post isn’t telling enough, many of the members of the group whole-heartedly endorse its contents. I am sure many of those members would be sitting at the Friday conference clapping vigorously and without any irony. I am also sure Sarah wouldn’t be telling the speakers that she is a member of a group that posts such hateful, pejorative filled posts that would have all the effects that they claim to be standing up against. Or is it because ‘they’ said it is not hateful? I am guessing that is the case. (However, i am sure these speakers are going to find out, because of the magic of email ;-0 – Just expressing an alternative point of view students.)

Back to some of the men involved is this hate-campaign; if you think it’s all right to shred, judge and rip apart other people online, then I am going to do the same for you…. Man 1. Total Douche Bag, big man about town, attitude filled wanker, worst example of the ‘used car sales man’ cliché, responsible for causing tension within otherwise harmonious relationships by spreading conspiracy theories and suspicion, recruiting other haters and has done more damage in this last year, than all the lies and crap he is putting on others. Man 2. Miserable Angry A-hole that constantly puts down and verbally abuses his ex-partner of 6 years, has never held down a regular job, has no assests, no income to support his children and no balls: only a true bully picks on a woman half his size and age. Now buddying up together they have found a shared love of blame and hatred and because they so obviously are not real men, with real jobs, and apparently have all the time in the world to go about destroying the lives of good, honest people that have nothing to hide. And note that I have still not publically named and shamed you even though I could and have been able to for some time.

Take some time to think about that you are doing Members of Universal Medicine. While you might believe that you are protecting someone from slander and yourself from attacks by trying to stand up and change the media and peoples right to an alternative point of view, what you are actually doing is making the same grave error that many people have made thought out history. That is to suppress free speech and debate; to react to criticism with censorship; to enable people with vested interest to hide behind libel laws that suit the well heeled and no one else. Your motives might be well motivated, but they are misguided. We know you are under the influence of UM and Serge, but think for a moment. Do we have anything to gain from opposing UM? Are we simply motivated by our inability to deal with our relationship issues and nothing else? Would we really spend so much time if we didn’t think there was a problem?

Well I will leave that for you to judge. But know this, we speak the truth. We have nothing to gain. And eventually, whether you like it or not, you too will know the truth. We will welcome you back at that stage, and then maybe together we can work on laws to regulate people manipulating others for their own gain.

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COncerned Partner
It appears as if a group of well meaning Universal Medicine members have formed an independent advocacy group to tackle the issue of people on forums, ie me and the other two dozen concerned citizens and partners who have been voicing concerns about Universal Medicine. [www.realmediarealchange.org]

We know they had a think tank a few months back, and we know they decided to attack the 'problem' head on. But I wonder why it was billed as an 'independent advocacy group' when in fact the agenda of Universal Medicine is clearly spelled out in its pages, even using typical UM adjectives and phrases. Since the conference convener is none other than the lovely Sarah Davis who is also a contributor to their blogs, often in reaction to negative media around Universal Medicine, I think that the fair thing to have done would been to have highlighted that connection to the speakers so they knew for whom they really rallied.

This is their stated agenda:

Cyber-harassment is the 'the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others.' It can be as simple as continuing to send email to someone who said they want no further contact with the sends, but may also included making false accusations, threats, sexual remarks, and using pejorative labels (ie, hate speech) Examples includes harassment via a mobile phone, setting up a defamatory personal website, ganging up on victims by making them the subject of ridicule in forums and posting false statements as facts aimed at humiliation.

Clearly the group think that the negative commentary about UM and their leader is about them. I have combed back through this forum and also through the other ‘offending’ blogs, and while there are sarcastic comments about people acting in a cultish manner (say for example, setting up a conference and not declaring the supporters and agenda with the long term aim of censoring opposing views) the remarks are actually about Serge and UM and the effects on his followers and their families. Of course, the members of the group probably do believe that we are making unfounded statements because they have not been motivated to examine if what we are saying is true. We won’t convince them, but rest assured, it is all correct; and what’s more, there is more to it then we dare say here. In time they will know that even if they try to avoid it by having opposing views shut down because it is ‘trolling’ or ‘hate speech’ (which is how they all characterise an alternative view on their love blogs)

Now speaking of love blogs, check this from one of their sites. It appears to me that they contradict themselves yet again by indulging like pigs in shit in the very behaviour they accuse others of. Interesting, I have not seen one post from anyone out here in the real world that comes anywhere near this pejorative, hate filled post about two men we know who have been cut off from their families due to the cult. The men I believe are just speaking their truth, and the truth. Nothing else. I am sure they have not said one negative thing about a group member personally, yet that doesn’t stop Kyla ripping them apart in a vindictive and childish way. And if the post isn’t telling enough, many of the members of the group whole-heartedly endorse its contents. I am sure many of those members would be sitting at the Friday conference clapping vigorously and without any irony. I am also sure Sarah wouldn’t be telling the speakers that she is a member of a group that posts such hateful, pejorative filled posts that would have all the effects that they claim to be standing up against. Or is it because ‘they’ said it is not hateful? I am guessing that is the case. (However, i am sure these speakers are going to find out, because of the magic of email ;-0 – Just expressing an alternative point of view students.)

Back to some of the men involved is this hate-campaign; if you think it’s all right to shred, judge and rip apart other people online, then I am going to do the same for you…. Man 1. Total Douche Bag, big man about town, attitude filled wanker, worst example of the ‘used car sales man’ cliché, responsible for causing tension within otherwise harmonious relationships by spreading conspiracy theories and suspicion, recruiting other haters and has done more damage in this last year, than all the lies and crap he is putting on others. Man 2. Miserable Angry A-hole that constantly puts down and verbally abuses his ex-partner of 6 years, has never held down a regular job, has no assests, no income to support his children and no balls: only a true bully picks on a woman half his size and age. Now buddying up together they have found a shared love of blame and hatred and because they so obviously are not real men, with real jobs, and apparently have all the time in the world to go about destroying the lives of good, honest people that have nothing to hide. And note that I have still not publically named and shamed you even though I could and have been able to for some time.

Take some time to think about that you are doing Members of Universal Medicine. While you might believe that you are protecting someone from slander and yourself from attacks by trying to stand up and change the media and peoples right to an alternative point of view, what you are actually doing is making the same grave error that many people have made thought out history. That is to suppress free speech and debate; to react to criticism with censorship; to enable people with vested interest to hide behind libel laws that suit the well heeled and no one else. Your motives might be well motivated, but they are misguided. We know you are under the influence of UM and Serge, but think for a moment. Do we have anything to gain from opposing UM? Are we simply motivated by our inability to deal with our relationship issues and nothing else? Would we really spend so much time if we didn’t think there was a problem?

Well I will leave that for you to judge. But know this, we speak the truth. We have nothing to gain. And eventually, whether you like it or not, you too will know the truth. We will welcome you back at that stage, and then maybe together we can work on laws to regulate people manipulating others for their own gain.

Pity; the word Pity comes to mind when I read this CP.

If the 'members of the public' who were so outraged by the mistruths being told about "the One" felt the need to start up a group and hold a Public Forum on being REAL (RMRC), with guest speakers coming from across Australia to speak, why then did they feel they needed to 'lie by omission' and not give the non-UM speakers the information that they (the group) are "students" of Serge Benhayon and Universal Medicine?

Does the University know they are hosting a Forum funded by Universal Medicine a recognized CULT, under ongoing investigation?

What springs to my mind is, are the group members embarrassed or even ashamed, about their involvement with UM, not to have passed on that vital piece of information to Non-Cult member speakers, or was it just a covert way to legitimize trying to stop information about the questionable dealings of Serge B being made public through the media?

'The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance my deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill

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Venus has thoroughly summarized UM's latest attack on free, independent thought and expression here:
[universalmedicineaccountability.blogspot.com.au]

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Venus has thoroughly summarized UM's latest attack on free, independent thought and expression here:
[universalmedicineaccountability.blogspot.com.au]

I second that MacReady.

Venus you have outdone yourself with your honest, succinct and pertinent blog.

I applaud you, thank you.

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Venus has thoroughly summarized UM's latest attack on free, independent thought and expression here:
[universalmedicineaccountability.blogspot.com.au]

I second that MacReady.

Venus you have outdone yourself with your honest, succinct and pertinent blog.

I applaud you, thank you.

Agreed, great blog Venus.

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Although I have not contributed too much, I do read your post reguarly.... I am sure we all appreicate the time and effort you put in :)

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Venus has thoroughly summarized UM's latest attack on free, independent thought and expression here:
[universalmedicineaccountability.blogspot.com.au]