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Historians and journalists can look to one other situation in Australia if they want to do a full feature story--the Hamilton Byrne followers, aka "The Family"
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From the Wikipedia entry on 'The Family':
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"The group consisted of middle class professional people; it has been estimated that a quarter were nurses and other medical personnel and that many were recruited by Johnson, who referred them to Hamilton-Byrne's hatha yoga classes"
Doesn't that sound familiar? Just goes to show that the handful of medical practitioners singing Serge's praises is hardly unique, and their involvement in UM does not negate the fact that it is a cult.
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Interesting Post on the Families of UM blog. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
I must say I find this part very interesting:
Benevolence and charity - these are the highest forms of evil on earth today. Pure illusion.
We still tend to want to do “good” as it is so ingrained. Students are now very aware they have been living their lives trying to be “good”.
Highest form of separation on earth is being good. Murder and rape can clear quickly, as you know something went wrong.
Harder to clear good, more damage done in the long term, as it is a major hurdle to overcome taking many lives to get over.
Karmatically it is more difficult to get over being “good” than being a murderer or rapist, as the energetic imprint left behind is empty and leaves a legacy of emptiness, as opposed to “evil” acts which are obviously harmful.
So, lets understand Serge correctly here. Being "good", like say helping starving children due a war in Africa where the soldiers are raping and murdering is FAR worse than the soldiers who are raping and murdering...because it is obvious "something went wrong"? What a charmer. (Hmmm....I wonder why the reference to rape and murder all the time and how it is easy to clear? Very odd)
Allow me to ponder this a moment longer with an example: From this we can understand that the rape and murder of say, Jill Meager was nothing compared to all those do-gooders who tried to help find the killer? I guess that the killer is clearing some karma and so was she? Yes, no doubt that is the case and I am sure the the UM'ers are all sitting around nodding now. But if you asked them to their face ( and they answered which would be unusual) I am sure they would give you a different take because they know how callous that would sound ( because they actually know that it is not right and it is callous)
That Serge can call charity the most evil thing there is, and dismiss rape and murder like it is nothing, is sickening and disgusting. That the followers soak it up is more so. But so UM. Of course, Serge's charity, set up to build an asset on his land with a questionable constitution ( available online) is of course the highest good. It doesn't help children born with congenital diseases, starving infants, create food programs, or vaccinate millions, or even help those dying at the hands of rapists and murderers, or anything as EVIL as that, but it does put some serious coin in Serge's pockets via a nice little device in his constitution given him perpetual power and the ability to pay any 'director' or 'associated company' whatever he feels like without question. Now that is a real charity.
Universal Medicine, crazy one day and evil the next. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
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COncerned Partner
Interesting Post on the Families of UM blog. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
I must say I find this part very interesting:
Benevolence and charity - these are the highest forms of evil on earth today. Pure illusion.
We still tend to want to do “good” as it is so ingrained. Students are now very aware they have been living their lives trying to be “good”.
Highest form of separation on earth is being good. Murder and rape can clear quickly, as you know something went wrong.
Harder to clear good, more damage done in the long term, as it is a major hurdle to overcome taking many lives to get over.
Karmatically it is more difficult to get over being “good” than being a murderer or rapist, as the energetic imprint left behind is empty and leaves a legacy of emptiness, as opposed to “evil” acts which are obviously harmful.
So, lets understand Serge correctly here. Being "good", like say helping starving children due a war in Africa where
the soldiers are raping and murdering is FAR worse than the soldiers who are raping and murdering...because it is obvious "something went wrong"? What a charmer. (Hmmm....I wonder why the reference to rape and murder all the time and how it is easy to clear? Very odd)
Allow me to ponder this a moment longer with an example: From this we can understand that the rape and murder of say, Jill Meager was nothing compared to all those do-gooders who tried to help find the killer? I guess that the killer is clearing some karma and so was she? Yes, no doubt that is the case and I am sure the the UM'ers are all sitting around nodding now. But if you asked them to their face ( and they answered which would be unusual) I am sure they would give you a different take because they know how callous that would sound ( because they actually know that it is not right and it is callous)
That Serge can call charity the most evil thing there is, and dismiss rape and murder like it is nothing, is sickening and disgusting. That the followers soak it up is more so. But so UM. Of course, Serge's charity, set up to build an asset on his land with a questionable constitution ( available online) is of course the highest good. It doesn't help children born with congenital diseases, starving infants, create food programs, or vaccinate millions, or even help those dying at the hands of rapists and murderers, or anything as EVIL as that, but it does put some serious coin in Serge's pockets via a nice little device in his constitution given him perpetual power and the ability to pay any 'director' or 'associated company' whatever he feels like without question. Now that is a real charity.
Universal Medicine, crazy one day and evil the next. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
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We still tend to want to do “good” as it is so ingrained. Students are now very aware they have been living their lives trying to be “good”.
Highest form of separation on earth is being good. Murder and rape can clear quickly, as you know something went wrong.
Harder to clear good, more damage done in the long term, as it is a major hurdle to overcome taking many lives to get over.
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We still tend to want to do “good” as it is so ingrained. Students are now very aware they have been living their lives trying to be “good”.
Highest form of separation on earth is being good. Murder and rape can clear quickly, as you know something went wrong.
Harder to clear good, more damage done in the long term, as it is a major hurdle to overcome taking many lives to get over.
If this is an accurate version of the teachings...
These sound like a very twisted version of the kinds of advice given to persons struggling with codependant/adult children of acoholics behavior.
One can imagine that very early in the recruitment process and in the early student phase, UM might offer the kinds of advice often given to persons who do have genuine codependance behavior patterns. But, over time, these teachings can easily be edged into a directly that condemns any generous impulse.
The actual problem is not with wanting to be good or with wanting to do good. The real issue is whether we do this in a driven manner and in ways that are not beneficial at all.
That is codependance.
But teaching that being good* is 'the highest separation on earth' --ye gods.
*Or a commitment to being moral?
This takes aim at the most basic way we are socialised, starting in earliest childhood.
Disrupt this, and you're putty in the hands of whoever teaches this stuff--if that transcript is accurate.
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Interesting Post on the Families of UM blog. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
I must say I find this part very interesting:
Benevolence and charity - these are the highest forms of evil on earth today. Pure illusion.
We still tend to want to do “good” as it is so ingrained. Students are now very aware they have been living their lives trying to be “good”.
Highest form of separation on earth is being good. Murder and rape can clear quickly, as you know something went wrong.
Harder to clear good, more damage done in the long term, as it is a major hurdle to overcome taking many lives to get over.
Karmatically it is more difficult to get over being “good” than being a murderer or rapist, as the energetic imprint left behind is empty and leaves a legacy of emptiness, as opposed to “evil” acts which are obviously harmful.
So, lets understand Serge correctly here. Being "good", like say helping starving children due a war in Africa where
the soldiers are raping and murdering is FAR worse than the soldiers who are raping and murdering...because it is obvious "something went wrong"? What a charmer. (Hmmm....I wonder why the reference to rape and murder all the time and how it is easy to clear? Very odd)
Allow me to ponder this a moment longer with an example: From this we can understand that the rape and murder of say, Jill Meager was nothing compared to all those do-gooders who tried to help find the killer? I guess that the killer is clearing some karma and so was she? Yes, no doubt that is the case and I am sure the the UM'ers are all sitting around nodding now. But if you asked them to their face ( and they answered which would be unusual) I am sure they would give you a different take because they know how callous that would sound ( because they actually know that it is not right and it is callous)
That Serge can call charity the most evil thing there is, and dismiss rape and murder like it is nothing, is sickening and disgusting. That the followers soak it up is more so. But so UM. Of course, Serge's charity, set up to build an asset on his land with a questionable constitution ( available online) is of course the highest good. It doesn't help children born with congenital diseases, starving infants, create food programs, or vaccinate millions, or even help those dying at the hands of rapists and murderers, or anything as EVIL as that, but it does put some serious coin in Serge's pockets via a nice little device in his constitution given him perpetual power and the ability to pay any 'director' or 'associated company' whatever he feels like without question. Now that is a real charity.
Universal Medicine, crazy one day and evil the next. [wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]
That's right. The world according to Serge:
Capitalism is evil (but my cult/business rakes in millions every year).
Charity is evil (except for mine, which lines my pockets nicely).
Humanity and the world in general are in a mess (but anyone who tries to counter that with acts of kindness are actually doing evil, so I guess all the war, famine, disease in the world are actually good?)
Help me out here Serge, this belief system of yours makes not a shred of sense whatsoever.