Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 01, 2012 11:37AM
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Full article below as available for members of the Medical Observer readership of 28,000 health professionals at the following link: [www.medicalobserver.com.au]
Concerns raised over 'prana' treatment - Medical Observer
MORE questions have been raised about treatments being offered by the Universal Medicine (UM) organisation in northern NSW following revelations a man, with what appeared to be a potentially life-threatening condition, was told by the founder of UM that “this is you releasing the evil/prana… from your body”.
As first reported in MO, northern NSW-based UM is the subject of multiple HCCC complaints involving allegations it is a “cult” that encourages its estimated 400 followers into avoiding most food, exercise and traditional medicine.
Herbal products sold by the group are meanwhile subject to a TGA investigation, with the TGA stating that Universal was selling unregistered alternative treatments in dosage packs, which “therefore meet the definition of therapeutic goods as they make general therapeutic claims for use in humans”.
MO has obtained a newsletter circulated to Universal’s students in which Queensland naturopath Steffen Messerschmidt is pictured with severe swelling and redness in his hands, arms and face. His written account in the newsletter says the symptoms presented in December 2008, after he had demonstrated “Dorn” spinal therapy on UM's founder Serge Benhayon.
Mr Messerschmidt wrote in the newsletter that Mr Benhayon told him “this is you releasing the evil/prana of Dorn Therapy from your body – a little more to go”, and to take photos of the swelling, and that Mr Benhayon said “sorry to hear this is still happening but I can’t help being excited by [it]”.
Dr Michael Vagg from Deakin University School of Medicine said the pictures “clearly indicate a potentially serious condition that I would say requires an urgent referral to a rheumatologist or haematologist for diagnosis”.
"It could be some type of urticarial vasculitis or autoimmune condition like lupus," Dr Vagg told MO.
“It would seem the patient has been quite lucky to survive as the facial swelling is an obvious sign of potential impending airway obstruction. With a condition such as this there is also the risk of major organ failure – particularly kidney failure."
Mr Messerschmidt said aside from Mr Benhayon, he showed his condition to “GPs and specialists” but “there was no reason to explain how that could have happened”.
“My body went through a pretty big shift and I was clearing lots and lots of things, like the pictures that you saw,” he said.
“Scientifically you can’t explain why I came up with third degree burns in the hands.”
Mr Benhayon told MO his remarks to Mr Messerschmidt were “a light-hearted quip… based on many months of discussion”.
“I saw only an emailed pic of a swollen hand,” he said. “In that quip, what I say is true according to the way I know and understand energy. But under no circumstance was it a diagnosis. Steffen never asked nor did I offer. When I did see him next… I firmly recommended he see a GP.”
Mr Benhayon added that Mr Messerschmidt “never once approached me in my capacity as an esoteric practitioner in regards to those conditions”.
“He chose to deal with his ill condition as he is qualified to do. He has a naturopathic degree from Germany which he tells me is medically high in standard," he said.
Professor John Dwyer, from Friends of Science in Medicine, said organisations like Universal that “take money in return for offering medical services when they have neither training nor credibility, but are willing to hoodwink the public into thinking that they have some mystical way of curing disease, even serious disease, are a public health menace”.
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Thanks for sharing this K_I_K. I'd suggest the onus is on Serge now to prove to the world that Prana even exists as an identifiable and scientifically measurable force at this point. If he successfully manages to do so, then he further needs to prove that it is 'evil' as he claims, as opposed to a life sustaining force as it is traditionally believed:
[en.wikipedia.org]
quote: "In the Ayurveda, the Sun and sunshine are held to be a source of prana"
Even Alice A. Bailey, Serge's alleged previous incarnation wrote of Prana in such traditional terms, as opposed to Serge's completely revisionist take on the matter. According to his own material, last time around Serge's (i.e. Bailey's) understanding of Prana was thoroughly mistaken, despite his knowledge supposedly being sourced from other members of the Hierarchy such as Djwal Khul in both cases.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 01, 2012 08:08PM
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I am an ex member. This whole affair has really made me wake up. Seeing him on TV looking like a creep cult leader freaked me out and made me shudder. I did some courses and while I liked the words, the deeds were very different. Serge spends a lot of time putting down other if not all therapies, medicine unless he approves of it, and people. It is weird for someone who says not to blame others. He is a total control freak and you can see all the people under his control coming onto the forums and now TV. It makes me glad I got out when I did. They are sending crazy emails at the moment about being under attack and how they are changing the world and all sorts of mad fundamentalist stuff. I wasnt sure if this was a cult now I know it is. This is not about love. it is about fear.
Congratulations Morpheus, you have escaped!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Treefern, it wasnt till last night I did. I think i always wanted to believe that what Serge said was true. I just felt something wasnt right, which is weird because he talks about being true to your feelings and not what you think. I FELT like he was not truthful all the time. But I was kept confused for a long time because he said things that made me think doubting meant I was pranic or in my head. It was like I wouldnt let myself think about it until last night when i saw him lying and twisting words and saying those sick things about men and sex. My feeling is people get into it because of all the constant touchy feely stuff. All the retreats and courses are like that. everyone doing hands on and treatments and massages. how can you not feel good? and then the feeling tricks your gut which is telling you Serge is tricking you with lots of ideas that your brain cant keep up with. Everyone is walking around sort of blissed out, hugging and grinning and 'yummy' from treatments. ( i kept thinking it was like one big mutual maturbation session if that is not too rude to say here ????) Its like a drug. Then Serge speaks and everyone listens and anything he says, no matter how STUPID they take in. anyway, up to the other night it was still grabbing at me. I kept thinking about those feelings. Then I saw him and his creepy face and I knew he was lying. It was like I saw him for real for the first time. Yuk. I read this forum before and thought you WERE angry now I know you are telling the turth about a very bad organisation. I hope his karma gets him just like he says it gets his students.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 01, 2012 09:10PM
A discussion of Alice Bailey and Serge. Some quoted excerpts.
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Sooooooooooooooooo... I hope some of the knowledgable girls and guys jump in to discuss that topic.
I have already mentioned it somewhere: last year I have been to a "Heart Chakra" seminar with Serge from www.universalmedicine.com.au
His teaching seems to be "based on" Alice Baileys teachings and if I got it right he "claims" to be in a kind of resonating communication with some Ascended Masters like Djwahl Kuhl
Now: from their position most spiritual traditions actually just blong to the lords of form, nourish the pranic being and actually allow for the "Lords of Form" to act fully and build a kind of Spiritual Homeland around the planet but far away from the true breath of God.
From their point what I am learning in KAP right now is absolutely contradictory to coming closer to God: working with emotions, nourishing prana etc. etc. etc.
now I came across this:
[www.conspirac...lice_bailey.htm]
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Luciferic Initiation
Some background is necessary on Chakras and the Kundalini, in order to proceed further with this expose.
In Hindu occult practice (the main root of the New Age Movement) there are 7 major centers for kundalini energy. By occult methods using meditation, drugs, visualization, yoga and whatever means necessary, initiates seek to awaken the sleeping fiery serpent (kundalini) for a "higher" state of consciousness.
This kundalini energy is visualized as an entwined serpent which rises from the base of the spine to "enlighten" and eventually dissolve the ego ¡ª to become a god incarnate, thereby preventing further incarnation on the physical plane. The New Age disciples believe in reincarnation and are taught by the demonic Hierarchy that this is the only way to stop the endless cycle of Karma ¡ª to evolve into Gods...(i.e. Gen. 3:5).
That is the goal and the techniques vary, but as one "ascends" through the 7 progressive chakras, each is an initiation unto a higher consciousness, until finally when you reach the point of union with "Sanat Kumara", "Shiva", "Vishnu", "Lord of the World" or what they most blasphemously call the "Christ Consciousness".
Satan's deception is that through each successive chakra the occult initiate actually does perceive a shift in consciousness, which to him it seems, is a progressive shift. The occultist now feels his contact and psychic telepathy with the Hierarchy getting stronger. As he continues, the initiate invariably reaches a point of no return. There is no turning back and all those doubts he failed to heed ¡ª being the "right" path or not ¡ª are finally revealed to him...it's too late. They're his! This is called the Luciferic Initiation.
Texe Marrs put it best when he wrote, "These feelings, voiced by so many who have received a Luciferic Initiation, are significant. They point to two inescapable facts: (1) The initiate recognizes that he is coming into close contact with dark, evil forces, and a spirit of fear engulfs him; and (2) after the initiation, his mind is patently altered. This is what New Agers call the Kundalini or Skaktipat experience, technically termed a Paradigm (World-view) Shift." (Mystery Mark of the New Age, p.39)
In many ways this is interesting: first of all this seems to be excluded from the teachings of Serge... although I know too little about these teachings to say for sure. From his point at least pranic practice might devlop chakras etc. but actually just a kind of armor layered on top of those and not the true chakras is worked on due to pranic overlay.
Now. In this article typical Kundalini work gets associated with Lucifer and Satanic work...
I am curious about your insights...
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I do not know of the particular teachings you are referring to but I do know enough about the Alice Bailey works that I would suggest extreme caution and discernment of practicing anything related.
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I tried to put it in more diplomatic terms but I personally agree with you.
Believe it or not, what you got there was my diplomatic version!
The idea that ascending through chakras or spheres is some kind of delusion will dismiss just about every spiritual tradition from Hermetics to Celtic stuff to Islam. It's worse than merely wrong, to suggest such a thing argues either colossal ignorance or massive delusion. It puts some of the best and truest work done by our race in the crapper without a second thought.
The problem is that people can just disseminate this and the average schmoe can't tell it apart from something real. People who know no better buy it and have to spend years untwisting it all. You could get in serious trouble.
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Funny how all the traditions teach you to "lift" your spirit.
If you know anything about the "Creation" (sumerian, Biblical, Islamic) the Creator took his most precious & 1st creation the "holy Spirit" and stuck in to the LOWEST part of the creation so it could rise back to him and spring life from that. from that all other "creations" became.
Hmm what does that sound like...?????
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Alice Bailey never met this so called ascended master. This is just more "New Age" channeling nonsense. I studied her material years ago and found it to be a dead end.
There is a teacher in Sedona that has written many books based on her writings. I wrote him a letter and 6 weeks later he sent my letter back and wrote some cryptic response on my letter. LOL!! Can't remember his name. He claims meditation is a negative and harmful.
Of course he has his own brand of meditation. LOL!!
A Dr. of Naturopathy here in Santa Fe told me that he knew of a number of Alice Bailey devotees that tried to use her system to heal themselves and others. These people became more ill and died. He felt her practices would lead to a disastrous end.
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I "think" Luciferianism is just using God's technology, without acknowledging God.
Therefore, a lot of the methods would be similar, only difference being that God is ultimately left out of the picture.
I guess this is like if a student had a beef with and broke away from his teacher...and then started teaching the same methods, but not crediting his teacher for it.
So, when you learn from Lucifer, you are learning from the student, not the teacher. Could still learn some good material, but not the highest-level and it could ultimately only get you so far...
Well, just a guess..
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I spent seven years with Alice Bailey group that she created. I too found it a dead end. A lot of these theosophical groups seem to have too much political agenda as well as their maze of spiritual practices.
The fundamentalists start with the assumption that everything else besides their own perspective is evil. This guy Marrs has book on various public figures and their showing masonic and other occult gestures in their hands. He has an explanation for every possible hand position imaginable as being an occult hand gesture. Except I didn't see one of a public figure with a finger up his nose, but if there were I am sure he would have an explanation of its occult significance.
I think the basic question in relation to the fundamentalists and paths that wake us up through our own personal devotion and practice is one of the gnostic idea of the jealous god vs the impersonal god, empty of conceptual judgment and description. There is a great book by Sri Anirvan, called Inner Yoga where he describes how in the past and present people can enter a type of lower samadhi who are easily deceived by a being in the astral who claim to be the ultimate god creator god. These people go on to create sects of religions claiming contact with the Highest, and often a jealous God. The introduction to Self Liberation through seeing with Naked Awareness translated by John Merdhin Reynolds, has a great take on the arising of the jealous god also.
I like what was said above about techniques being used without acknowledgment of God and their source hence Luciferic. Techniques, especially the new agey mish mosh could lead to a satifaction with the astral "Light." What I think is especially tempting is to think anyone has reached the Ultimate and there is no further to go.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 02, 2012 07:49AM
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I am an ex member. This whole affair has really made me wake up. Seeing him on TV looking like a creep cult leader freaked me out and made me shudder. I did some courses and while I liked the words, the deeds were very different. Serge spends a lot of time putting down other if not all therapies, medicine unless he approves of it, and people. It is weird for someone who says not to blame others. He is a total control freak and you can see all the people under his control coming onto the forums and now TV. It makes me glad I got out when I did. They are sending crazy emails at the moment about being under attack and how they are changing the world and all sorts of mad fundamentalist stuff. I wasnt sure if this was a cult now I know it is. This is not about love. it is about fear.
Congratulations Morpheus, you have escaped!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Treefern, it wasnt till last night I did. I think i always wanted to believe that what Serge said was true. I just felt something wasnt right, which is weird because he talks about being true to your feelings and not what you think. I FELT like he was not truthful all the time. But I was kept confused for a long time because he said things that made me think doubting meant I was pranic or in my head. It was like I wouldnt let myself think about it until last night when i saw him lying and twisting words and saying those sick things about men and sex. My feeling is people get into it because of all the constant touchy feely stuff. All the retreats and courses are like that. everyone doing hands on and treatments and massages. how can you not feel good? and then the feeling tricks your gut which is telling you Serge is tricking you with lots of ideas that your brain cant keep up with. Everyone is walking around sort of blissed out, hugging and grinning and 'yummy' from treatments. ( i kept thinking it was like one big mutual maturbation session if that is not too rude to say here ????) Its like a drug. Then Serge speaks and everyone listens and anything he says, no matter how STUPID they take in. anyway, up to the other night it was still grabbing at me. I kept thinking about those feelings. Then I saw him and his creepy face and I knew he was lying. It was like I saw him for real for the first time. Yuk. I read this forum before and thought you WERE angry now I know you are telling the turth about a very bad organisation. I hope his karma gets him just like he says it gets his students.
Once again Morpheus thank you for your honesty. I believe that there are many, many more people out there who feel exactly the same way you do, it always helps when we hear something that confirms our feelings. I don't mean we on the site but we as a general term.
Here is the thing for me Morpheus. I would love to live in a world where we are all a little kinder and more loving to our fellow human beings, I would love it if we all could be more gentle with each other every minute of every day, we all want that. In a way I think going to the retreats is like going to a really good concert (without the touchy stuff) everyone there has gone with one mind and one heart..to enjoy the music of the person they have come to see, we feel high/elated when we leave. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going to a retreat and having a wonderful relaxing time. Where the problem starts for me is what comes next, that is the notion that this handful of people are now the 'chosen ones', the ones that "are doing the work", have seen the "loveliness" light and have been blessed by the leader of the 'chosen ones'. When you come home from the retreat the rest of the world has been working are tired and maybe a little envious that you got to go away in the first place and leave them to keep things going at home. They are a little less loving, a little more grumpy and way too tired to practise the new found love making skills, you (not you in person) are more than excited to try out. What hits them first is the anger, resentment and "unlovingness", wow just what Serge said people 'out there' are like! Ah the bait has been taken!
Yes Morpheus it is like a drug, you want more of the mutual stroking and the only place you can BUY it is at Serges house, no need for compound walls. You go again and get the 'love' drug=feel great...come home or go out into the world=reality. Serge talks about lots of things, you want those things they SOUND good, your partner/friends/family hasn't been to the mutual stroking sessions, you are now full of love they are empty but a tinsy bit angry=pranic. (By the world to the rest of the world, pranic energy is good life force energy. Give me pranic energy any day.) Get the picture of this horrible fix that Serge has hooked really lovely people into?
It may take longer than a couple of days to get your head back in it's right mind Morpheus. Might I suggest you spend as much time as you can remembering all of the things that made you happy before you were hooked onto the UM drug. Old music, good loyal friends, family, coffee, chocolate and hot chips lots of chips!
Hang in there Morpheus you sound like a very honest loving person to start with and obviously one with great insight, that is 'on the ball' to be able to get to this point now. This is only what this site is about, this is only what the people who initially went to the newspapers for and that is to bring awareness to the people who need to open their minds and hearts to the closed world of Serge and his millions.($$$$$$)
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
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Date: August 02, 2012 08:10AM
Thank you to Morpheus and Treefern for sharing your accounts and perspective. It is promising to hear of your stories and that you have decided to live a normal, well balanced, loving life without the judgement and restrictions that the UM lifestyle force you to live with. I sincerely hope there are lots more to follow. Treefern, your account is enlightening and interesting as Serge has an answer for everything creating the need for his followers to return for more lessons no matter the scenario they encounter in the real world. It's certainly a money maker. Congratulations again Morpheus. You give us family and friends a glimmer of hope.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 02, 2012 09:35AM
Welcome to the discussion Morpheus, and thanks for sharing your story.Quote
Morpheus
I am an ex member. This whole affair has really made me wake up. Seeing him on TV looking like a creep cult leader freaked me out and made me shudder. I did some courses and while I liked the words, the deeds were very different. Serge spends a lot of time putting down other if not all therapies, medicine unless he approves of it, and people. It is weird for someone who says not to blame others. He is a total control freak and you can see all the people under his control coming onto the forums and now TV. It makes me glad I got out when I did. They are sending crazy emails at the moment about being under attack and how they are changing the world and all sorts of mad fundamentalist stuff. I wasnt sure if this was a cult now I know it is. This is not about love. it is about fear.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 02, 2012 02:52PM
For anyone who doubts the exposure this thread is generating on the topic of Serge Benhayon and Universal Medicine:
In the 24 hours since I put the article up from Medical Observer this thread received over 600 views. Even if you allow a couple of views for each of the people who contribute on here regularly that still leaves more than enough people to counterbalance the claimed 400 followers of Serge. Hundreds of people coming here to read the truth about Universal Medicine and it's leader Serge Benhayon a truth that Serge and his followers have been trying desperately to withhold from their 'students' and the outside world for the past 13 years.
In the 24 hours since I put the article up from Medical Observer this thread received over 600 views. Even if you allow a couple of views for each of the people who contribute on here regularly that still leaves more than enough people to counterbalance the claimed 400 followers of Serge. Hundreds of people coming here to read the truth about Universal Medicine and it's leader Serge Benhayon a truth that Serge and his followers have been trying desperately to withhold from their 'students' and the outside world for the past 13 years.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 02, 2012 11:11PM
Open Question:
If anyone has left Serge's social scene, it would be helpful, and yes, healing to describe how you became involved.
At what point did you find out how important the teachings were?
Were you told up front, and from the very beginning, that a friend or health practitioner was loyal to Serge?
Are devotees normally frank about the place the teachings and the teacher hold in thier lives?
Did you see anything that only in retrospect turned out to be significant--such as a picture of the Mona Lisa painting at the clinic?
Was that picture openly displayed in the waiting room, or kept rather discreetly in a corner of a treatment suite or the therapists office?
People cannot make a fully informed decision about whether to involve themselves with a treatment or a healer if they are not allowed to know that the healer believes him or her self to be a soldier in a vast cosmic project that has to be kept secret from Those Not Ready to Know.
Some out there may be laughing at what they see to be the absurdity of this situation. They may be convinced they'd never fall into what , seems a quite unusual belief sytem.
But, what if you are not told, early on, what your healer's belief system is?
And whether the belief system influences whether a healer feels able to tell you, from the beginning, what he or she believes is the real source of healing energy.
If people go to a massage therapist, diet advisor or yoga teacher and that teacher is keeping quiet about a deeply felt belief that they're neck deep in a Cosmic Project, thats one thing.
But if the healer is convinced that membership in this Cosmic Project is the source of his or her healing talents, and this Secret Knowledge that gives them special access to healing forces---but must not be talked about to non initiates, this means non initiate fee paying clients, cannot be told full details.
If all clients were full initiates and are told full info about the Cosmic Project and the Teacher, and were on the same page as the healer, there would be no problem.
How, if the healer has such beliefs and keeps mum about the beliefs, how can non initiated patients, clients or students know and then decide whether a relationship with this practitioner, is something they want to be part of?
This dilemma is not funny at all.
If anyone has left Serge's social scene, it would be helpful, and yes, healing to describe how you became involved.
At what point did you find out how important the teachings were?
Were you told up front, and from the very beginning, that a friend or health practitioner was loyal to Serge?
Are devotees normally frank about the place the teachings and the teacher hold in thier lives?
Did you see anything that only in retrospect turned out to be significant--such as a picture of the Mona Lisa painting at the clinic?
Was that picture openly displayed in the waiting room, or kept rather discreetly in a corner of a treatment suite or the therapists office?
People cannot make a fully informed decision about whether to involve themselves with a treatment or a healer if they are not allowed to know that the healer believes him or her self to be a soldier in a vast cosmic project that has to be kept secret from Those Not Ready to Know.
Some out there may be laughing at what they see to be the absurdity of this situation. They may be convinced they'd never fall into what , seems a quite unusual belief sytem.
But, what if you are not told, early on, what your healer's belief system is?
And whether the belief system influences whether a healer feels able to tell you, from the beginning, what he or she believes is the real source of healing energy.
If people go to a massage therapist, diet advisor or yoga teacher and that teacher is keeping quiet about a deeply felt belief that they're neck deep in a Cosmic Project, thats one thing.
But if the healer is convinced that membership in this Cosmic Project is the source of his or her healing talents, and this Secret Knowledge that gives them special access to healing forces---but must not be talked about to non initiates, this means non initiate fee paying clients, cannot be told full details.
If all clients were full initiates and are told full info about the Cosmic Project and the Teacher, and were on the same page as the healer, there would be no problem.
How, if the healer has such beliefs and keeps mum about the beliefs, how can non initiated patients, clients or students know and then decide whether a relationship with this practitioner, is something they want to be part of?
This dilemma is not funny at all.
Re: Universal medicine
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 02, 2012 11:16PM
To clarify
How, if the healer has such beliefs (about being in a Cosmic Project) and keeps mum about the beliefs, how can non initiated patients, clients or students know and then decide whether a relationship with this this type of practitioner, and who has these kinds of loyalties, is something they want to be part of?
Some of us just dont want to be involved with someone who has such an intense set of loyalties. Others would have no problem at all.
But..a prospective client needs the information to make such decisions at the start of the relationship.
How, if the healer has such beliefs (about being in a Cosmic Project) and keeps mum about the beliefs, how can non initiated patients, clients or students know and then decide whether a relationship with this this type of practitioner, and who has these kinds of loyalties, is something they want to be part of?
Some of us just dont want to be involved with someone who has such an intense set of loyalties. Others would have no problem at all.
But..a prospective client needs the information to make such decisions at the start of the relationship.
Re: Universal medicine
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Date: August 03, 2012 12:17AM
What amazes me about the recent newspaper articles and TV reports on Universal Medicine is the response of Universal Medicine to them. If you go on their website, the front page is now dominated by links to their 'media' page. The whole set up displays a massive lack of understanding of how the media works and actually human responses to it. The letters to various media organizations they have chosen to publish highlight the desperation of the situation they are now in. Writing to a reporter who visited their headquarters and they willingly gave their time to, who then delivered a report as he saw it, pretty much how every other media organization has seen it, and not the puff piece they expected and then suggesting that he was not telling the whole truth is ridiculous. The more they try and counter the press interest in them, the more they reveal about themselves, and it would seem, the more the media becomes interested in them.
Apparently all the journalists involved in the numerous articles have no integrity and are just printing lies. All of them, really? While the Northern Echo did the name of good journalism a disservice in the article they printed as certain facts were not properly researched, they did retract those errors very quickly. I have seen no retractions from the Sydney Morning Herald or The Medical Observer. Both are respected journals with reputations for accuracy and credible journalism. Their reporting of Universal Medicine allowed for comment from Benhayon and Universal Medicine, and both printed those comments. I can see no evidence of unfair reporting in that.
The accusations of a "smear campaign" are just idiotic, a childish defense against the truth being revealed. Universal Medicine often often uses the expression "mud slinging". It seems to me they are slinging mud everywhere at the moment hoping some of it will stick, but none of it is.
I would also like to welcome the new posters, and those choosing to do so via PM.
Apparently all the journalists involved in the numerous articles have no integrity and are just printing lies. All of them, really? While the Northern Echo did the name of good journalism a disservice in the article they printed as certain facts were not properly researched, they did retract those errors very quickly. I have seen no retractions from the Sydney Morning Herald or The Medical Observer. Both are respected journals with reputations for accuracy and credible journalism. Their reporting of Universal Medicine allowed for comment from Benhayon and Universal Medicine, and both printed those comments. I can see no evidence of unfair reporting in that.
The accusations of a "smear campaign" are just idiotic, a childish defense against the truth being revealed. Universal Medicine often often uses the expression "mud slinging". It seems to me they are slinging mud everywhere at the moment hoping some of it will stick, but none of it is.
I would also like to welcome the new posters, and those choosing to do so via PM.
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