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John lazuras

The initial imprint of creating the tampon came from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance and ‘I just want to keep going’. Once this energy is removed from the body it is much easier to connect with the true energy of our cervix, to connect with our preciousness.
Serge then came on stage and said that the energy of a tampon in our body is like having sex with the dirtiest guy you know all the way through your period.
Serge can present to a group of women and us feel at ease with him because he energetically holds the energy of a true women very deeply in his body.”

2. “Natalie asked if the woman in the back would like to ask a question……It is like having sex with the company (Tampax).
It was Serge!
He then joined Natalie on stage.
Would you put one in your behind?……..yet your cervix is more sacred.
Think of the worse man you can think of. You are walking around with his penis inside you.
It is most important to have a relationship with your body first.
Serge then continued the presentation.”

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I find what Serge has said about having sex with the dirtiest guy you know, to be so offensive, if it all wasn't so serious I would find his comments laughable as they are absurd. He has based everything on fear, which is such a harmful destructive way to control people. What if one of those women in that room had been raped and then to have Serge retrigger or traumatise them about wearing tampons? What if they were wearing a tampon on that day?
I can't believe my beautiful strong minded friend who had opinions and a wicked sense of humour could sit and listen to this complete fear based brain washing. As Serge is a man I don't think he can comment on the energy of a tampon, and as Natalie is in her early 20's and obviously hasn't left home or done any of her own living away from her family then who is she to comment on such big life cycles as woman's monthly periods, especially women who have gone through or are in the throws of menopause.

This whole UM philosophy is based on fear, fear is the hook. I agree with KIK, that working in mental health you try to draw on positives in peoples lives and not scare them into submission. How dare Serge Benhayon and his brainwashed daughter (I actually feel sorry for her because she is going to need some serious therapy if UM ever falls apart) comment on what women use during their menses.

To Serge, you are so hypocritical, if tampons are bad then why are pads ok? what about the energy of the pad? Serge, what about the energy of the airplanes you fly around in? what about the energy of the gluten free food you eat. Are you at home making everything from scratch with your pure unadulterated energy so you can't be effected by the evil pranic forces out to get us all? How can you be so sure about the energy of anything you use, ie the portable computer you are using right now, or the clothes you are wearing (do you grow cotton and have it all made for you so it can't have an ounce of pranic energy in it) I doubt it so stop picking on women. You really are a clever man. You have marketed yourself at middle class women, looking for a little more to their life, and you have honed in on them and taken them for an astral ride of the most egocentric kind. Also serge, if you read this, if you are so hell bent on "fiery love" why don't you offer anything for free? Do you go around hospitals trying to heal the sick? do you go into indigenous communities and offer money or support? Some how I doubt it. Please Serge, leave all these women alone and have a long hard think of the destruction you are causing. Also please don't align yourself with the Dali Lama, I have met him and he is way cool and full of compassion and love of a true kind, not a fear based money making kind.

I don't think indigenous Australians or women would have got the vote if they didn't get slightly pranically motivated. The civil rights movement in the US came out of demonstrations. Being completely unemotional and detached doesn't help the downtrodden all of the time. Emotions such as anger and/or fear need to be felt to move us out of dangerous situations or create the impetus of positive change. Unfortunately, your circular arguments about feeling vs emotions doesn't allow your students to fight or flight and get the hell out of UM.

Ok now I have had my little emotional pranic outburst I can get on with the day.

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John lazuras
Hi All,

Please read the below points that have been recently discussed at Natalie Benhayon Esoteric Womens Presentation in England in recent months. These are extracts from the notes from the group on what was discussed…..in their words.


1. “Since Natalie presented about periods and the period diary every single women who has tried having a period using pads instead of tampons has loved it and had the most amazing period ever. Even those who were very challenged by the idea of using pads instead of tampons have found them to be much more supportive of their body.

The initial imprint of creating the tampon came from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance and ‘I just want to keep going’. Once this energy is removed from the body it is much easier to connect with the true energy of our cervix, to connect with our preciousness.
Serge then came on stage and said that the energy of a tampon in our body is like having sex with the dirtiest guy you know all the way through your period.
Serge can present to a group of women and us feel at ease with him because he energetically holds the energy of a true women very deeply in his body.”

2. “Natalie asked if the woman in the back would like to ask a question……It is like having sex with the company (Tampax).
It was Serge!
He then joined Natalie on stage.
Would you put one in your behind?……..yet your cervix is more sacred.
Think of the worse man you can think of. You are walking around with his penis inside you.
It is most important to have a relationship with your body first.
Serge then continued the presentation.”

3.” Natalie said - Teenage girls are not asked out to prom nights or special occasions now; but shown porn sites and said lets go and do this in our break time.
At 15 you are now defined by your “hand job or your” blow job “and they are all doing it so it has become part of the norm. If you want to be in the “in-crowd” now you have to say yes. Before if you were easy and slept around you would have been known as a slut.”

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This is some sick stuff but somehow not suprising. Serge is able to normalise any boundary crossing behaviour, and it again demonstrates that his students/followers will swallow anything he has to say, no matter how twisted.
This again is a part of Serge's control mechanisms over this mostly female followers. It hints at the depth of the control he wants to exercise which extends to how women view the relationships, intimacy and their bodies.

Let me pose a few questions.
1. Why is there no male equivalent, like a EMG?- I would love to hear the metaphors ( answer: men are not Serge's paying audience and wont 'buy' his nonsense. Given he energetically holds the energy of a women, it doesnt look like he has space to energetically hold the energy of a man- self evident)
2. Why does Serge need to demonise sexuality and again men by implication? ( read above)
3. Why does Serge and his young woefully inexperienced charge assume all 15 years are running around giving hand/blow jobs? that is one sick and twisted mind at work. ( again i say, what Serge talks about reveals a lot about himself and not the subject)

Don't you love the setup? Serge waiting to theatrically spring into action to expose the great plot of tampon companies world wide to inject bad energy of the worst mans penis into every women.... What are we really talking about here Serge, and why is that on your mind? Hmmm ( read above) It is like Serge wants to assure the absolute chastity of his students having already eliminated many of the man folk and their horrible penises that shoot terrible sex energy that cannot match his cosmic fully body orgasmic love making of which every one in the world is jealous...

Which leads me to something that has been perplexing me for some time. We are all aware that MANY couples have broken up once one member becomes a 'student'- the details are very similiar. the drop in intimacy, the so called reason, the words said, the non negotiation, .. Serge must be aware of many if not all of them. However, has Serge ever once suggested directly to one of his students to work on the relationship? Yes we know he offers a 'choice' to his students- but does he ever suggest directly and firmly that the relationship is worth working on? I think we all know the answer...

and that leads back to what he is up to. It is a slow immersion of removing one so-called 'imposed' set of beliefs and roles and then anyone who objects, and then replacing them with his own and his world view and then himself. Talk about 'Imposing'

Serge accuses people that are against him or 'the work' as being insanely jealous.... well, again Serge you show your hand and tell us the contents of your mind.

To the women under Serge's spell. No man should assume to tell you the sanctity of your own body and invade your person by filling your minds with such vile comparisons. Since you have learnt not to be shocked at those invasions we here will do it for you. How you want to relate to men and your body is up to you, not some sick little narcisstic man with strange ideas about the world.

You may think there is some truth to what Serge and his exponents say. My answer is, there is nothing more evil than a half truth...because Serge says some things that may be right, does that make him right or give him a right greater than yours? Take your lives back Students.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/13/2012 05:36PM by COncerned Partner.

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corboy

Avoidance of any sort of penetration (except penetration from Serge's own ideas) is becoming the theme.

This has further implications.

As women are taught to fear tampons, how can they imagine getting regular GYN exams--something that could give early diagnosis of of a life threatening condition?

As a woman becomes more involved in heeding the teachings of the Benhayons puts a fear driven set of rituals and avoidances around her intimate parts, going to a medical professional for a GYN exam will become unthinkable.

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HI All
Yes John, we have access to ALL the emails that go out too- here's a recent example of some image control of the group via a facebook sendout. I think this fits the 'constricting attention' criteria,

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As a fellow student and as someone who works as a social media manager, I felt to share a few observations about current communication practices on Facebook.

By and large, Esoteric students are starting to do and say some amazing things on Facebook and there is much to be inspired by, however, I have noticed that sometimes students are posting comments as if they are in a room full of other Esoteric students and not in the public sphere. Posting cryptic acronyms or Esoteric terminology that only we as a community understand is posting without regard to our responsibility to be bridging and inclusive of the broader community of which we are a part.

It is worth being honest about why you are posting a comment -- and being aware of the context in which you are posting it. Many students have business pages with a wide audience in the temporal world. When overly 'flowery' messages, with references to words that are not widely understood are publicly posted onto their wall this can have the effect of alienating 'mainstream' customers and may not actually be of benefit to them or their business.

This is not to say that one shouldn't express in all their glory -- but glory holds all equally and often a lot can be said in very simple language.
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In other words, we are cleary whacky and if it gets out in a public forum, normal thinking people will think we are weird. This tell us three very important things.
1. Esoteric students know that is it odd.
2. Students need to indulge in the deception of omission which is equal to lying ( under ACCC laws for example, omission of information is considered equal to deception) - It is a trait of someone in a cult not to use the language or symbology of that group as a way of disgusing their involvement and its true nature.
3. The group is trying to limit and control the public perception of it.

If this mind control group is to survive it needs to start building more walls around its doctrine and close down its presence in the public sphere. Of course, if it is not that, then it needs to contact the media and start doing press releases and hold public forums explaining how Serge has come from Shambhala to help mankind escape the fleshy shackles of this pathetic, sickly, illusion filled sad and pathetic life and elevate us into the fiery plan..urgently.

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rebecca08
So when a student of UniMed or any other organization starts talking about love in a fashion that is very over the top and flowery rather than simply living it and being that love, then yeah, I am going to point out that they are perhaps not actually being loving. No students claim to be perfect (and if they do they are missing the point) and sometimes UniMed students come across a bit lovey dovey and over the top, most students are aware of that and we call it out when we see it. Cynically – you may see this as image control. Lovingly, I see it as telling someone they are not being themselves and they are mis-interpreting what it means to be loving.

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