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Apollo
The above post was made roughly six weeks ago. Just for the record the ''Melbourne Weasel'' was in fact Mr Glenn Griffiths. As we all know Mr Griffiths has been known to lie in the past so I took what he had say with a pinch of salt. However, recent developments suggest Glenn wasn't too far from the truth.

Initially Glenn had asked to remain anonymous due to fear of intimidation from McKay and his cohorts however he has now agreed to step forward.

Thank you both for the informative updates, Zeusor and Apollo....if (whatever they happen to be calling themsevles) can only dump the excesses of McKay ...be. that fraud, exortion, wilful misrepresentation or the like.... and focus on the antimaterialism that they claim motivates them, perhaps there can yet be a ""happy ending" somewhere, sometime....

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zeuszor
Grace is with the Catholic Workers in L.A. now.

Here is something about it that is still online (notice how it refers to him as a JC):

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We were privileged to host the wedding Catholic Worker Grace Hill-Speed and Jesus Christian Jayme Kronmiller, at our regular Wednesday liturgy. We wish them Joy on there future adventures!

She still has some association with the Catholic Workers. She attended a protest with them on Good Friday. I don't think she's with them full-time though.

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She seems to be travelling with both Jayme and Jeremy Kronmiller who are still very much peddling McKay's propaganda it seems. Grace is promoting this organisation which clearly has very close links to the Jesus Chistians. It's likely they're still selling Survivors which of course will promote Dave McKay and line his pockets. Glenn certainly suggested they are still in close contact with McKay.

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She made a post on her blog around a month before her wedding stating that she planned to leave the Catholic Workers and hit the road again.

TUESDAY, MARCH 22, 2011

In my last post, I mentioned that I would be leaving the LACW this spring, to hit the road once again. I'm excited to get back to the nomadic lifestyle that has shaped my adult life.

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The plan all along was obviously to support her husband and his brother who were launching an offshoot of the Jesus Christians/Children of God. I suspect she is helping spread McKay's filth on a daily basis.

If these kids want to roll around the country, crashing with the Catholic Workers and going to Occupy rallies and Rainbow Gatherings, then I say let 'em. They'll grow out of it eventually.

Look, the only ones who I am concerned about monitoring are the old man and his consort, Dave and Cherry McKay. Have we any word on what they are doing, or where they are?

Looks like McKay has his minions working for him as usual, e.g. fund raising through literature, etc.

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zeuszor
If these kids want to roll around the country, crashing with the Catholic Workers and going to Occupy rallies and Rainbow Gatherings, then I say let 'em. They'll grow out of it eventually.

Look, the only ones who I am concerned about monitoring are the old man and his consort, Dave and Cherry McKay. Have we any word on what they are doing, or where they are?

They're hardly kids, zeuszor. The twins are in their 30's and Grace is in her mid 20's. We're talking about a group of adults who have been taught every deceitful trick in the book. These people are callous individuals who would have no hesitation taking a young teenager out of education or pocketing someone's life savings.

It certainly looks as if they still have very strong connections to Dave McKay and the Jesus Christians. I believe he is still pulling the strings. In fact, as far I can see little has changed. They had ''separated'' into autonomous groups years ago anyway. The only difference now is they've given each autonomous group a new identity with the intention of seeking new followers without having the JCs baggage hanging over them.

Until I see evidence which proves they are no longer promoting Dave McKay and his methods then I will consider these people to be a threat to our society.

The new info will be added to the dossier and sent out to every school and university in LA and the surrounding areas.

Here is a photo for identification purposes.



Grace is on the left and the Kronmiller twins (Jayme and Jeremy) are behind her. You can see a more recent picture of Grace earlier in the page.

One of the Kronmiller twins can be seen being whipped from 04:00 onwards in the following clip. This was part of a Jesus Christians cult ritual in July last year.

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The two Kronmiller twins and Grace are part of a cult who are now an offshoot of the Jesus Christians cult. It's likely they have other cult members travelling with them. Anyone coming into contact with these people will not be told about their links to the Jesus Christians cult but please do not be fooled. Any money these people make will inevitably end up in the pockets of David John McKay, founder and leader of the Jesus Christians cult and former member of the notorious ''Children of God''. It is believed they are currently travelling around the LA area and I would ask the people of LA to be extra vigilant. It's possible they may even be harbouring a paedophile. If you come into contact with these people please report it on this forum.

On distinguishing one Kronmiller brother from the other: they are identical twins. Both in thier mid-thirties.

They are Ezra (aka Jayme) Brice Kronmiller and Jeremy Brian Kronmiller. Jeremy has a tattoo near one of his wrists (unsure which), with the words, Fortunate Son.

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Obviously, as a mother who is concerned for the safety of her son and myself, I was more than a little put-off by a stranger approaching me with literature and asking for a penny, but the man said he was a Christian when I asked him who he believed in, so I thought I'd take a chance and ask him some more questions. He told me that he didn't go to a church, saying they were just buildings without a real foundation in Jesus' words, and kept (annoyingly) repeating throughout our talk that he was just interested in following the things Jesus spoke about, as if that was the only important part of the bible!!



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Laura