brojitsu00 Wrote:
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> Delivered,
>
> I wasn't speaking of a change in voice so much as
> a change in verbiage. I remember many times
> through the years there was a constant mention of
> God having the glory and if anything way said it
> was quickly followed by some form of statement
> recognizing that the speaker was a man and
> everything was done though and for God's praise.
> It seemed to be a bit different I that aspect.
> Seemed to either be more prideful or perhaps left
> out for expediency. But again I wasn't there but
> for a couple services. It kinda had me a little
> worried as if something had change or was amiss.
> but I will say that over the years of my being
> there, the church (and Rev Denis especially) were
> more than there for my wife and I. I never once
> saw anything questionable in morals or ethics. But
> I know that any man is fallible and I hope that
> what folks are saying here isn't happening to the
> church. That's scary. But I don't believe what I
> hear from others and more so rely on what I hear
> and see for myself so perhaps I will make a trip
> back to Hinesville in the near future. God knows
> I miss the people there. They were very good to
> us. Even my family who were not members of the
> church and know all about it say the same.

Brojitsu00,

There are very friendly and sincere people in the church. I was there for a long time. You have experienced one side of the church which I would call the outside, believe me, there is an inside.

It is like freemasonry. The first degrees are ignorant of the highest degrees. Brojitsu00 I don't want to discourage you at all in serving God. God is real and I don't know you or your experience so I don't want to discourage anyone.

I just know the closer you get to Rev Denis the more you see that he is a fraud. That is my experience.

Denis once (in 2004) threatened to go to my chain of command and accuse me of being inappropriate with some of the children in the church (these were all lies of course), because I was being openly critical of himself and his organization. When he heard that I was publicly criticizing HOP among the soldiers at Ft. Stewart, he personally called me on the phone and started making such threats, which would have ruined my reputation and military career. Also he told Heitzman to call me andhe started accusing me of acts of pedophilia too. Scared to death, I did stop criticizing HOP and never went back there. As I did indeed shut up about the matter, nobody ever did report these lies to my chain of command, and I never heard from Denis or Heitzman again. Denis is an evil man in my sight, and Oloans and Bradeen are idiots.

Wow!

Right now Denis is calling many people either gay, child molesters, pornographers,and not saved unless he clears you.

Delivered Wrote:
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> Right now Denis is calling many people either gay,
> child molesters, pornographers,and not saved
> unless he clears you.


That's a true story, the one I related the other day. After I stopped complaining to others about HOP, they left me alone from that point forward. Dennis is an evil and dangerous man who rules through fear, and not anything like the love of God. He is there to be served, not to serve.

I was approached by some from this church in a shopping area, what should I be watching for

The Falconer Wrote:
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> Delivered Wrote:
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> > Right now Denis is calling many people either
> gay,
> > child molesters, pornographers,and not saved
> > unless he clears you.
>
>
> That's a true story, the one I related the other
> day. After I stopped complaining to others about
> HOP, they left me alone from that point forward.
> Dennis is an evil and dangerous man who rules
> through fear, and not anything like the love of
> God. He is there to be served, not to serve.

I have definitely seen this first hand, the ministers in Hopcc are motivated by fear of man and not the love of God. A little Haitian man powered by spiritism has these big men shaking in their white shirts and wingtips.

"I have definitely seen this first hand..."

Me too.

Has anyone seen this one?

www.hopcc.com

There is a ton of info on the inner workings of the church at

www.hopcc.com