Yes they have to pay for that, different rates for just using it a live event, or recording and broadcasting it. If they have broadcast it and did pay the proper rate, then it can be reported to ASCAP or the relevant company which will demand payment from SGI, if SGI is trying to pull a fast one. SGI-USA hires the top PR and US marketing agencies and people, to come up with new methods of adve
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One example of many. All seminar income goes into some sort of company, or charity entity. Then "expenses" are taken from that entity, at wildly inflated rates of course, often in cash, or some type of cash kick-back scheme. Then that money is gone. The company is always run at break-even, like an empty shell. Meanwhile, the millions that have been extracted from the company,
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Good thing people are fighting back against these LGAT seminar scam-artists and crooks. These sorts of scams are going on all over the place. "breach of contract, consumer fraud and unjust enrichment." 3 women ripped off for thousands each. It sure sounds like consumer fraud to try to sell "nothing", then cancel it, and keep the money. That's fraud. Maybe the FTC will
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Quantum Shift = SHIFT assets out of your name, into shell corporations which you control. Then you can drain those shell corps into other shells corps you control while holding minor positions. Works great, until you make enough mistakes and the house of cards collapses, and they call in the forensic accountants and accounting fraud examiners.
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The forensic accountants and accounting fraud examiners are going to eat James Ray alive, not smart to tell Tall Tales to the court. Note that the propaganda document saying Ray was 4 million in debt is being said to be FALSE. QUOTE: "When asked whether the document was accurate, Echols responded that it wasn't and said Ray's personal liabilities and assets should have been se
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There is older info in this article from Mother Jones on Werner Erhard, where they try to look at how the money was moved around. There is an actual little chart somewhere that someone made up too... These days this is now all down to a science. They hire an expert, and pay the expert a lot of money to run the money through the system templates, using many different companies, some in differe
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That is a good way to put it. From seeing how these Gur guys/gals operate, they make sure they stick windfalls away, as they think everyone else in the world is a scammer like them, as thus have an EXTREME fear getting sued. They obsess about that pretty much 24/7. When they get their Oprah Effect money, its gone instantly. (unless of course they are into cocaine, gambling, booze, etc, where the
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There you have it, as predicted the scammer James Ray has stashed his cash. Could be the brother and family members are sitting on a chunk of it, as well as all sorts of offshore shell-companies like Werner Erhard used. They called the company James Ray International, "international" as in making and moving money out of the country. Call in the IRS. Even the true believer James
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James Arthur Ray: The Documents In the Case Written by Lynne LaMaster Monday, 15 February 2010 23:30 Please note: This article will be updated frequently, so you'll want to bookmark this page! However, unlike other articles that we keep a running update on, the updates will be added to the body of the article under the appropriate topics, and any new topics that may appear.
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Some people might want to look around and see if they can find anything, a search on the NV site using the name James Ray could turn up some results. Search by Officer Name, James Ray, and James A Ray, and other searches. Business Entity Search Maybe someone could post that on the Salty Droid site, to get many people looking around. There is a long list of revoked companies. A couple of
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Its also starting to look like James Ray is in cahoots with his brother and other family members? Maybe some of those folks have various homes and assets in their names? But that will be looked at by the experts. Werner Erhard was the master of that one. When things turned bad for Werner Erhard he "sold" his companies to his family, and fled the USA. They then pay Werner using co
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James Ray is trying to claim he is "not wealthy", he is doing it by the book. One thing that is taught right at the beginning of anyone who starts up these big money LGAT seminars, is how to try to hide your assets to protect them from lawsuits. They attempt to teach all sorts of strategies of setting up various trusts, offshore accounts and shell companies, strings of corporations
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More evidence is building around Ikeda having sexual activities with young women in SGI, including the nude sessions in the Ikeda hot-tub. Sometimes it takes a very long time for the proof of that to come out. With Sai Baba, the sexual abuses of young boys took many years to come out. Also, there was a "Zen guru" called Seung Sahn, who was a mini-Ikeda. It only came out years lat
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Any of those names from above can be run through the search engine on various sites, like this one. NCCS - Search Active Organizations (there are also links to search inactive orgs too) Its pretty much official, SGI is the richest sect/cult on earth. Why doesn't anyone know this? TM was said to be the richest, but they only have about 3.6 billion. SGI globally could be ove
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Just going to be blunt. Yes, people have "heard" Werner Erhard handed everything over. They were told that from the Landmark propagandists, that is their Story, and they are sticking to it. They said that after Werner Erhard fled the USA. And if anyone believes that, maybe they have also heard the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale. Anyone who actually believes that Werner Erhard has
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There are some analyses starting of "Dr." Michael Bernard Beckwith. It will take a while, but now that he is getting famous, some journalists will go and do some digging, and start to turn up some of the wacko stuff. Its interesting that he uses the LSD comment below, without knowing about the Talking Tree that told Beckwith he was going to save the world. Here is a blog article
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another exact similarity. One Taste has a non-profit called "Fill Up America". Morehouse has a non-profit called "Turn On To America". The names both sound like names created by Vic Baranco. They both are double entendre's as well, typical to Vic Baranco. The extreme misdeeds of "Turn On To America" are detailed in these articles, and its still listed
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Thanks for the post above Corboy. And what is amazing, as detailed in these very threads, Byron Katie does every single one of those techniques, and literally about 100 more. And the BK folks just refuse to talk about them, as they know knowledge of the technique can block it. Which is why they need to try and keep everything "fuzzy", and try to deflect from it. Byron Katie is on
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Its interesting to see how the indocrinated Landmarkians almost without exception, behave like abusive cowards. Just like Werner Erhard. They copied his methods exactly, and most abusers are cowards. Landmark Education is so cowardly, they fear simple free speech, and freedom of thought. It terrifies them that people will stand up to them, and criticize them. That is why the cowardly Wer
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To dig up that kind of info would require some serious investigative reporters, as Werner Erhard & Co would have dozens of dummy shell companies all over the place making money transfers. There are people who specialize in hiding and moving money, but they are very hard to catch. Also, if someone with some resources could finance a top private detective to be put on Werner Erhard'
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There is one single activity that Landmark carries out, that they should be shut down for. Werner Erhard designed a process for people to take deep, untreated TRAUMA in people, and then REACTIVATE it, and then just cut people lose with no support from professionals. This can lead to hospitalization and even suicide, and mental breakdowns, as we have seen. When someone has been sexually abus
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I don't see Jack Rosenberg as being involved in the day-to-day ops of his business, Landmark Education. He might be...but I doubt it. More about setting policy and direction, and sticking to his bogus "philosophies" and abusive methods of coercion, etc, etc. Other cult-type leaders were nabbed recently, and what they had were those prepaid anonymous cell phones that drug dealers
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All it would take is for one of these experienced and powerful class-action lawyers in the US, and they could possibly take Landmark down, and put them out of business. Does anyone think Landmark might have some Enron type problems? Or some problems about where all the money is going? Is money getting channelled off-shore somehow? What about the "employee owned" bullshit Landmark
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