That review by the waiter who got fired tells it all. Ching Hai Loving Hut volunteer slave labor. They want people to work for as close to free as possible, and will break labor laws to do it. Be certain that Ching Hai followers would not get any money, and lose money to work there. Its like Scientology. This is why one should never support these cults by buying their food or services, as
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So its most likely the Loving Hut delays are from just not knowing what they are doing? The restaurant industry is one of the hardest, so most Loving Huts, they would be losing their shirts, and houses. They would be losing a lot of money every month. It would be interesting to know are the Loving Hut's now just playing Ching Hai DVD's in the restaurants? One would assume that is w
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You wonder if the Loving Hut in Saigon changed their videos due to customer complaints? That might be an effective strategy, to complain to the owner about the cultish Ching Hai videos, enough complaints and they might have to change it.
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Groups like Scientology use that technique, not with a restaurant, but they get people in to watch videos, and try to stretch it out for hours, to the point of signing you up for a course. But its good news some Loving Huts are not playing SMTV reruns, if they want to break away from Ching Hai, they could just use the screens to play music and things customers want to hear. But this is the
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Will Tuttle gets an A+ in hypocrisy. Will Tuttle criticizing VegNews, when he is in bed with Ching Hai?? Deceiving the public is bad when anyone does it. The level of hypocrisy by Will Tuttle is almost unbelievable. --------------quote from Will Tuttle on vegsource.com----------- "Thanks, VegSource, for telling it like it is! VegNews has done a real disservice - this series of act
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Ching Hai has had her money and her fingers in EarthSave.org for quite some time. Even before EarthSave was openly on Ching Hai's payola list, their senior managers were defending Ching Hai. kissing up = big financial gifts from Ching Hai. Notice all the "vegans" who are shilling for Ching Hai, are on Ching Hai's gravy train? Ching Hai is giving their groups money, or bo
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Its the typical stance of trying to minimize the damage created by these con-women cultish leaders. In fact, the focus needs to be on exactly WHO they are damaging. Who is getting scammed? Who are the people who are getting conned into selling their houses and businesses, and handing over all their money to Ching Hai Inc? And these celebrities should be ashamed of themselves. When they ge
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Critics Claim Supreme Master Ching Hai's Followers' Restaurants Featuring Tasty Vegan Fare Front For an Exploitive Movement. By Stephen Lemons Thursday, Jun 2 2011 ---------------------------------------------- Interesting article, which seems to be written from the perspective of Veganism, with lots of detail about the food. Its important, actually, to separate Veganism from Ch
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Those are interesting comments, clearly by some of Ching Hai's western followers, probably those involved with the restaurants, as that is their focus. You can see that they go to the SLAUGHTERHOUSE very quickly. This is because through Ching Hai, they have repeatedly watched the most cruel, terrible slaughterhouse videos, over and over again. This will traumatize people, and as part of
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The Supreme Master Ching Hai's masterplan to use organic Veganism as a way into the mainstream, is having some impact. There are even Vegans who say to "ignore" the Ching Hai propaganda at the Loving Hut, and just buy the food to support Veganism. (some of those might be Ching Hai followers, while others are just not aware of how it works). That is wrong on so many levels. Firs
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Yes of course, like most other sects, the regular folks at the bottom, the true believers, the joiners, they really believe the stuff. They don't know anything about cultic recruiting techniques, or international money laundering, or techniques of group persuasion using mass media. They just believe in Ching Hai as they have be conditioned to. The person buying some crummy cheap lamp fro
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Another fascinating thing about Ching Hai and her methods. Its truly brilliant for a sect to come up with a special "diet" for their followers, as most sects do, as we all have to eat 3x a day. But if the sect can come up with a special narrow diet, then tell their followers they can eat local, BUT, its better if they order some of the sects specially-made food each month. The food
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correction: It was pointed out that I used the term 'real Vegans'. That is sloppy and incorrect. Of course, many followers of Ching Hai may be Vegans long before they met Ching Hai. So to correct that, that would mean Vegans with no connection to Ching Hai Inc. There are all kinds of Vegans out there, and most obviously have nothing to do with Ching Hai. So non-Ching Hai Vegans
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---------------------quote--------------------- Know thy master Are Sacramento’s Ching Hai devotees eco-conscious, vegan, meditation masters—or members of the region’s fastest-growing cult? By Alia Cruz ...VegNews recently published an explosive article on the supreme master, where writer Abigail Young revealed that Ching Hai lived a materialistic lifestyle, one that seemingly contradicts
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No wonder Eric Lai is in hiding (in terms of Ching Hai). Eric Lai writes a thesis over 15 years ago about Hue Dang Trinh. And 15 years later, SMCH operatives NAME HIM directly in an internet petition. His name went out to large numbers of members of the SMCH group. Again, these are all deliberate tactics, meant to discourage and frighten people. They name the writers, and they go after the
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The comments on this Ching Hai petition, don't help disprove the point of the article. Quite the opposite. Their repeated talking point word of the day is "slanderous". (that is a not so subtle message to magazine editors about costly a costly SLAPP) That seems to be the most famous and perhaps important paper Eric Lai wrote, while still at college. The vigorous attack aga
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Its very interesting how such a mild article, becomes so traumatic in the Ching Hai followers mind. Its because the messianic Leader of the sect is built up in their mind to be "perfect" and divine. One notices how cult experts often ask a follower to name even ONE critical thing about their Guru-Leader. Just ask them to criticize one single thing about their Master. They can't do
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Supreme Mystery by Abigail Young -----------article quote excerpt for research and analysis---------------- Supreme Mystery by Abigail Young "With more than 160 locations opened since 2008, Loving Hut is the world's fastest growing veg restaurant chain. Though the brand is more noticeable than ever, the woman behind it remains something of an enigma. Who is Supreme Master
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And this is not even scratching the surface, as Ching Hai is active in many countries. They are pulling in tens of millions, and where is it all going? To P.O. Boxes in the Virgin Islands, or Cayman Islands? Transferred between numbered companies worldwide? This is why one should never give, donate, or buy even ONE DOLLAR worth of anything from these kinds of groups of sects. No one knows
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It would be enlightening to make a complete list of all the different companies and websites that are owned and controlled by the "crazy" like a fox Supreme Master Ching Hai. They sure love Post Office boxes at SMCH. www.smchbooks.com www.suprememastertv.com www.remembergod.org www.godsdirectcontact.org www.godsdirectcontact.com www.contatodiretocomdeus.com.br www.nepali.godsd
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And you have to shake your head. Will Tuttle is saying this is nothing like a cultish group?? In the next breath he is talking about Supreme Master Ching Hai. Its not enough for Ching Hai to be your Master. She wants to be your Supreme Master. Now of course every one of these groups these days tries to fudge that, and try and make it sound like "God" is the Supreme Master...(later
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Here are the people/entities who appear to be listed for this company trademark. Of course, the trademark seems to be registered out of a Virgin Islands POST OFFICE BOX, which of course is not for tax-benefits, as Ching Hai is so "crazy". ;-) All these "crazy" spiritual Gurus with multiple corporations globally, based in areas to minimize taxes. Check out how many hundr
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Can anyone makes sense of this? It looks like their trademark and logo, involved in selling products with animal skins? Or is it just imitation skins? ------------------------------------- On Wednesday, November 26, 2008, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for L LOVING HUT BE VEG GO GREEN. This trademark is owned by LOVING HUT INTERNATIONAL LIMITED, TORTOLA. The USPTO has given
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Its also quite sad about the Loving Hut situation. In a few areas where Vegan is popular, they MIGHT be able to break-even. Maybe. But in other areas, not a chance. The cost of the lease, insurance, taxes, and everything else would make it a money-pit for the owners. There is a Loving Hut which is always empty, with 4 "staff" at the front, of course they may not be getting paid. But
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Interesting about the Loving Hut franchise. Again, it shows how clever Ching Hai is. Because if a follower is going to go so far to dump all that money into a restaurant, then of course they are going to buy her special imported food. As they believe in her, and would obviously believe the food is blessed, or whatever, and specially made, and not contaminated like the rest of the worlds food, et
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It is comical, but its serious as real people are getting hurt, and are going to get hurt by this Ching Hai system. And sadly the average person has NO CLUE of what Ms Ching Hai is up to with this. She is a very smart cookie, actually. Very clever, and media savvy, and she understands mass persuasion. All of this "weird" stuff has been covered in other threads, its a technique. And i
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Even smarter! That way there is no legal liability, but the franchisees have to buy their food from her. Well, in franchise-land that is how the Supreme Owner makes the best money, buy over-charging their own franchisee for product. That is why the local Subway owner gives you 3 olives, and you have to ask for more, because he has to buy his olives from Subway Inc, and they charge them plenty.
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and its looking like the www.lovinghut.com restaurants, are a franchise situation, where devoted Ching Hai followers buy a franchise from her company, and set one up. What is the cost of the Loving hut franchise? Setting up an experimental Vegan fast-food franchise paid to the Master, possibly using your house as collateral? Setting up franchises is one of the BIGGEST moneymakers in any se
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Looking into the details of Ching Hai, and its very clear they are using all of the standard set-ups, operating like a business corp, using religious tax-loopholes internationally, etc. She even claims on her website she does NOT accept donations. Again, many groups SAY that to deflect criticism. They get the money in other ways, either by selling overpriced material to the members. Or just ca
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