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10 years ago
diddly
Only voluntarily. People are now asked to become celibate / renunciates if they want to continue getting her one-to-one guidance and "go on to realization", whether or not they are married; but, no one has been asked to leave their families or homes. I think I've given all I can give on this thread. Everyone that visits will have to choose for themselves.
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10 years ago
diddly
Many are well educated, though its a diverse group of people. Some are even still in college. Their financial situations, given the variety of peoples, are a wide range. I've never seen her target based on money, though one student she keeps fairly close to her has quite a bit and pays out more than "donation / gifts", as listed in various parts of this thread. She also had h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
@ Dabcult: I already responded to your "list question" on Page 28 after the first time you asked. @ Psyborgue: She has had hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of students that have come and gone along the years (she's been at this for 12-14 years (?)). Most that go don't stay long, usually quietly making their way out. Many that have left have done so under great uphea
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10 years ago
diddly
"You say she is on medication for PTSD, for which she must see a psychiatrist. Yet she forbids others from doing the same. How does she explain these contradictions to her followers? Does she even attempt to, or does she just smack people down if they ask questions? I apologize if you already answered the question earlier but I haven't finished reading all 28 pages yet." For the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Perhaps you haven't read through all of the posts here, only seeing a limited few. All of the concerns have been laid out in detail: 1. She now requires renunciation for any that want her guidance, having changed that from the years past. For those that do not want to take renunciate vows, they are sent to the "does not want realization group", lead by students. She her
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Dear Psyborgue, I'm sorry I didn't respond to your note, as I didn't notice this post when I last checked in. Thank you for this. Sadly, all true. Optimistically, all is well. Thank you, again, for offering your insight and view. Diddly, The group I was in did many similar things to what you're experiencing. After leaving the group and speaking out against it, I
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10 years ago
diddly
Thanks, everyone, for the comments.
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10 years ago
diddly
She has posted the last letters I sent to her private email address (and after a Cease and Desist notice was given which specifically asked that she no longer share private information about myself or my family shared in her private groups, emails or "counseling services") on her Facebook account. Sigh. This is how she deals with criticisms, which she claims to readily accept and allo
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10 years ago
diddly
According to the teacher's website (www.GuruSwamiG.com, listed in the footer), the following is noted: "This site and all church activities operate under the auspices of THE CHURCH OF GREAT PEACE AND PATHWAYS TO SELF-REALIZATION with a trade name ZEN WAY, a non profit corporation registered in the state of Washington." A simple search at the IRS revealed no such 501c organi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
It should also be noted that my family and I are prepared for legal action, having the advisors needed and readied.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Yes. I know. I have attached the Counseling Code of Ethics for all to see, which shows what licensed, certfied and trained counselors MUST adhere to or lose their license. Her student, the asian nun, is a counselor at a local Florida drug rehab clinic. I'm sure, if they found out about her teachers activities and the liberties she takes with her own "counseling practices", t
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10 years ago
diddly
She has some new videos (on YouTube which can be found under her name) out to combat this thread and all that has been brought up within it. That is fair and to be expected. Sadly, she fails to address most (if not all) of the issues, concerns and points that have been laid out by me other than using veiled and vague justifications. Those questions and concerns still need to be answered.
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10 years ago
diddly
1 - When Swami G has referred to the guru who "commissioned" her a guru, she speaks in what I've considered to be very veiled and hazy terms, not identifying the guru, claiming that he wants to remain anonymous, etc. I've always found that a bit fishy. Do you know some of the details? How did Swami G become a guru? Was it after a long period of discernment and training? Or is
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10 years ago
diddly
To provide a more fair assessment of my own fall from the teacher's favor: ~ This teacher suddenly, after many years speaking otherwise, decided that in order for their to be "realization" for ANYONE, they would need to become a renunciate. ~ This teacher thus changed up her group AGAIN (after dozens and dozens of changes over the years) and said that any who would not become c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Also, John, so this board and those that visit it can have a better understanding of your "position within her group": you have been kicked out of her primary group for a variety of reasons. You are in a group that is no longer authorized to do her practices, to get individual one to one attention, etc. And this is because you didn't do exactly as she told you do (again, details
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10 years ago
diddly
Thank you, RR Moderator, for allowing this place to be in order for those of us with great concerns to have a place to share free from the teachers and their groups own moderating. Holly
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10 years ago
diddly
Thank you, Icarus, for your kind comments. I am terrified, but willing. Holly xo
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10 years ago
diddly
John: I think it might be time for me to recognize the futility if arguing in a forum where the moderator is hostile (shouldn't they be neutral?) You do realize your teacher does the same? She is not only hostile, but refuses to entertain, in any instance, someone's questions or concerns which express criticism against her and her group (How does she avoid that? By saying, "H
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10 years ago
diddly
Posted added twice by error.
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10 years ago
diddly
Hi XRohan, (Puntuation added by me) Thats so true about the counsuling sessions. I was there when she said: "damn, I have to go stare at the screen for another half and hour to listen to...", forgot exactly how she put it; but, believe m,e it was like she was having to pull her teeth for money... I know. It's hard thing to have to witness her contempt for her students and
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10 years ago
diddly
Hi Icarus, I appreciate your post. It is well thought out, considerate, fair and balanced. Thank you for it. Yes, I will readily admit to be in "discredit mode". In fairness to both myself and the teacher, I was long in "credibility mode". Allow me to explain a few things in more detail. 1. Her group is set up to not only give the teacher adoration and praises,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
John, you've sadly opened yourself up and I (being no longer afraid to share what I've seen) must comment: "This coming from the woman that long claimed "only a Realized Being can recognize another Realized Being" (which directly contradicts John's claim that he can "know" his teacher is a "realized being" when even she can't know who is a
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10 years ago
diddly
Thank you moderator. "The Master said: Watch their actions, observe their motives, examine wherein they dwell content; won't you know what kind of person they are? Won't you know what kind of person they are?" ~ Confucius
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
(Shrugs) -- she told us everything. Everything. She also had oral surgery in Mexico paid for by contributions made at the birthday retreat a year ago. So what? The kind of teacher you have to watch out for are the ones that hide stuff. She could have disappeared for 2 months and reappeared all thin and pretended to have gone on a diet. If I recall it was a matter of life-threatening diabetes.
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10 years ago
diddly
By the way, her RICH student (the one she freely takes monies and gifts from, under the table as it were) paid for her house. She's simply living on his dime.
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10 years ago
diddly
John, please ask your teacher to POST HERE (or PUBLICLY provide) the following: ~ Tax returns for at least the last 3 years. ~ Financial statements for her organization. The good public (the tax payers that subsidize her non-profit group) is here and anxiously awaiting her "proofs of ethical financial behavior". Thanks.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Some further considerations for John and those that still, after all these concerns, need some more examples: ~ She prohibits that anyone read ANY spiritual book, religious book or philosophical works OUTSIDE of her limited list (which has about 10 books or less). What books DOES she approve? Of course her own, then those that speak to "crazy wisdom" or hold what she views as "
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Researching PTSD (specifically related to sexual assault, which truly and sadly, said teacher was the victim of both in childhood and later in adulthood while in the Army) reveals the true, disturbing depth of a woman, profoundly (and horrifyingly) violated, which has the common / classic symptoms of this disorder (which is to be expected and, truly, I hold deep compassion for) and which, sadly (
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
Thank you, Yasmin, for your reasonable and considerate responses.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
diddly
I am all too painfully aware that the teacher in this instance has long trained her students to regard anything as "ego driven". With that said, we shall then just look to behaviors and actions, which themselves speak more loudly than any ideal or fantascial claim ever will: In addition to every thing listed above (1-9), here are some further examples: 10. Said teacher had 8 &qu
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