Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The people who also became disciples such as > Bhaktivedanta in India, were usually raised in > Vaishnavism from birth. > They took it seriously. They did not land staright > from a strip joint. Genetic background, upbringing by parents, grandparents, traditional - these are very strong influences.
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In my opinion, Butler has kept his hidden hand deep in Hawaiian politics for decades. How devious and deep remains to be seen. The Hawaiian media and authorities need to start doing their jobs. Chris Butler Spies in the Honolulu Prosecutors Office According to sources: "Not only did Rick Reed discuss everything with Chris Butler on this, but had been as far back as 1976! Butler t
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Vera City Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > After sharing > Flash's latest post with a > friend who was involved in the production of > Butler's newspapers on Maui- the following was > sent to me. He wishes to keep his anonymity. > Butler was referred to as "Siddha" back then in > the mid 1970's. > ...L
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After sharing Flash's latest post with a friend who was involved in the production of Butler's newspapers on Maui- the following was sent to me. He wishes to keep his anonymity. Butler was referred to as "Siddha" back then in the mid 1970's. QuoteAnonymous ExerWe did what we were told. Rick Reed would meet with Siddha and some of the staff to dictate what each iss
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...When a small new newspaper on Maui called The Valley Isle published a rumor about an alleged “godfather” of organized crime (Larry Mehau) and was hit with a multi million-dollar lawsuit as a result, Advertiser staff writer Walter Wright was assigned to find out who started the paper and what their goals were. He concluded that the paper was only a small part of the “real” story: a loose-knit c
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Hawaii island businessman Larry Mehau dies "...Mehau was once accused of by a Honolulu City Prosecutor’s aide, Rick Reed, of being the “godfather” of organized crime in Hawaii — a charge he strongly denied. He sued Reed for libel and invasion of privacy..." What does Chris Butler have in common with Larry Mehau? An obsession with politics plus allegations of drug smuggling. For wh
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THEY DO THIS IN PRISONS As far back as 1975, an exer revealed that Butler was studying books on mind control. Fearless Leader, Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda had a stack of these books in his room. They were often seen scattered about his sheet covered tatami mat along with newspapers and notes. In those days Butler would sit on the floor reading and writing ideas for the newspapers which Rick
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Quote FLASH October 30, 1986 • Reed Denies a Claim That He Told Adviser About State’s Report, Honolulu Star-Bulletin, October 30, 1986 October 31, 1986 • Reed’s Guru Denies Ever Discussing Heftel Smear, Honolulu Star-Bulletin, October 31, 1986 It was a real scandal and no one did much about it. A Hare Krishna cult has two members in the prosecutor's office, they commit a crime agains
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Vera City Date Added: 06/07/2008 Posts: 392 Reed follows Butler orders and why Carter left cult BUTLER ALLEGEDLY HELPED TO PROMOTE AND DIRECT THE SMEAR CAMPAIGNS AGAINST BOTH HEFTEL AND INOYUE; Quote: According to the legend, Cec Heftel was mounting a serious challenge to John Waihee for the Democratic nomination for Governor. Heftel was ahead in the polls, when the De
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BUTLER ALLEGEDLY HELPED TO PROMOTE AND DIRECT THE SMEAR CAMPAIGNS AGAINST BOTH HEFTEL AND INOYUE;http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,4453,38082,quote=1 QuoteAccording to the legend, Cec Heftel was mounting a serious challenge to John Waihee for the Democratic nomination for Governor. Heftel was ahead in the polls, when the Democratic machine, which backed Waihee, launched a "smear ca
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Both these guys were DEVOUT followers and TOTAL puppets of Butler throughout their political careers. Reed Item: "One of the more controversial cases Schutter was associated with involved his client Big Island rancher and business owner Larry Mehau, accused of being the "godfather" of Hawaii organized crime by former Republican state Sen. Rick Reed in 1985. Mehau's lawsu
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Quotes from: Love and Stockholm Syndrome: The Mystery of Loving an Abuser Written by Joseph M. Carver, PhD Tuesday, 03 February 2009 01:23 - Last Updated Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:01 People are often amazed at their own psychological conditions and reactions. Those with depression are stunned when they remember they've thought of killing themselves. Patients recovering from sev
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I've had to challenge many SoI members on the lies they have told me. Why should I not question the information you are offering here V? Because you've taken a stance against the cult? The cultofbutler site is only interested in facts and if you are spreading false information then it is likely that I am going to challenge you on it. I offered my reasons as an ex-follower as to why your
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SOI KILLS- Why make trouble where none exists!? Your links do not support your statements. One link has nothing to do with either the Valley Isle nor the Garden Isle newspapers. The other link only has a passing reference to VI's "Godfather" article about Larry Mehau. FYI - mid seventies can be anywhere between 1973 to 1978. Both the Valley Isle and the Garden Isle sta
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What follows is the original Dear Fanatic "interview" first published in the "Valley Isle" newspaper. The Valley Isle was a feature newspaper published on Maui. Rick Reed was the "editor in chief", but CB approved of all of the material. The only thing he wrote was his own interviews. Reed edited the English. Several people swapped roles as reporters (all interv
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This comment which was left on The Honolulu Advertiser site mentions that Carter Phillips Reed admitted that Chris Butler was involved. Perhaps the article refered to is the 12th August 1992 Honolulu Weekly "Rick Reed's Inner Self" by Derek Ferrar when 7000 papers disappeared from the newstands. It was mentioned on this thread that the marriage was arranged and when Carter had
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According to the legend, Cec Heftel was mounting a serious challenge to John Waihee for the Democratic nomination for Governor. Heftel was ahead in the polls, when the Democratic machine, which backed Waihee, launched a "smear campaign" with a mass mailing that alleged Heftel's involvement with drug parties and underaged males. These rumors caused Heftel to lose the election. Th
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Quotejust-googlingQuotejonfeldmane Hey even Larry Mehau would probably donate to a lawsuit against the godfather of organized nut cases in Hawaii, Chris Butler. :lol: :lol: LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jonfeldmane, Hey I’m embarrassed enough for my many years in stupidity! I knew about all of those initiations, but had forgotten! There was more than one incident of Siddha initiating wives and not the husbands! In fact, I can think of at least four on my watch. I guess he determined that the females would be more submissive and work on their husbands -- or leave them for his service, which
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Quotejonfeldmane Hey even Larry Mehau would probably donate to a lawsuit against the godfather of organized nut cases in Hawaii, Chris Butler. :lol: :lol: LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I can’t believe the stuff I am reading here. I read everything, all 42 pages. I sure am glad I left back in the 80’s. It appears things got really strange. A big exodus took place in the 80’s. Sounds like down under is even more wackier. Cult get over it, the guy must be a loser to be still following that wacko. You are breaking my heart, catch another bus they are a dime a dozen honey. I can
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Quotejust-googlingQuoteshanti Were you around for the warehouse days in Honolulu? I remember at one point right before I left the island, walking through metal detector doorways that had newly been installed, like at an airport, to get through the door leading down the hall to the main room. Yes, Chris' safety was taken VERY seriously. I don't know if there had been lots of threats on
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QuoteinitiateTHE EVOLUTION OF POLITICAL CONSCIOUNESS Siddha’s initial involvement inpolitics evolved out of his interest in protecting the environment. He was interested in preserving beaches and maintaining public access for surfers. He didn’t want the Islands to become over run with tourism and developments. It was during the gas crisis of the 1970’s. He was inspired by E.F. Schumacher’
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THE EVOLUTION OF POLITICAL CONSCIOUNESS Siddha’s initial involvement inpolitics evolved out of his interest in protecting the environment. He was interested in preserving beaches and maintaining public access for surfers. He didn’t want the Islands to become over run with tourism and developments. It was during the gas crisis of the 1970’s. He was inspired by E.F. Schumacher’s book “Small
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