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4 years ago
corboy
Dr. Hunter's paper is an excellent overview. One of the most important breakthroughs in understanding LGATs happened on an earlier version of this forum when, over ten years ago, we discussed Landmark Education. One person named kittypaw found a paper written by Drew Kopp, who had once been involved with Landmark - and who described the method used by Landmark to control the physical sett
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5 years ago
corboy
So if anyone has not yet done so, it may be worth looking through the discussion on manipulating tne room environment. This gives clues that signal whether any workshop you're in is an LGAT. Some features of a recipe are so important that these cannot be changed, even if the name is changed.
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5 years ago
corboy
Right after this first page of the Manipulating the Room Environment discussion, a very distraught person arrived. This may have been a coincidence. It was, however, the first post this individual made. dpa made this first post on Date: May 13, 2004 01:21PM Corboy quoted from the Kopp paper on Date: May 13, 2004 10:38AM Manipulating the room's environment Posted by: dpa
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5 years ago
corboy
This is the discussion we had about milieu control. The discussion began April 23, 2004 07:49PM Further down, one of the partcipants in the discussion mentioned a paper written by someone describing what the author had observed of the LEC room set up. Date: May 11, 2004 06:35AM QuoteThe Room Arrangement Deserves Our Close Attention All of these are guesses, but are educated
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5 years ago
kdag
That's a great link on the effects of not enough sleep, corboy. I recognize a lot of that in myself.
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5 years ago
corboy
Sleep Scientist Warns Against Walking Through Life 'In An Underslept State' 38:05 DOWNLOAD TRANSCRIPT July 20, 20181:52 PM ET Heard on Fresh Air
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6 years ago
GloriaG
It was the devious calculation of these methods which I found most disturbing when I first discovered them back in 2010 via this forum. Throughout the first Forum weekend, our course leader kept saying - "you're going to pop on Monday afternoon." I had no idea what he meant until I experienced a natural dopamine high induced by all these techniques to stress out my nervous s
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6 years ago
kdag
anonday, In my humble opinion: In addition to all of the above, these people are extremely sadistic. I can't even begin to tell you the level this reached in their interactions with me. If someone isn't falling for the basic, programs, or in other words, is a "hard case," they will obtain personal information from the "friends" who recruited you, (and beyon
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8 years ago
corboy
Dear sumi: Over the years, others have discussed Insight Centre of Light. One way to recognize an LGAT or other type of irresponsible seminar is the type of waiver form subjects must sign as a condition of participation. In effect, you give them credit for your successes -- and by signing that waiver form, you release them from all responsibility if you are harmed. You are signing awa
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9 years ago
jill w
Does anyone have info on the 4 day seminars in California called ACCD? Breakthrough training.
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9 years ago
corboy
Dear DB1: You are both very lucky. The Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) is a complex mix. The word games are just one ingredient. LGATS also hit people's bodies -- and that is a component few are aware of. Here is a discussion on 'Manipulating the Room Environment'. Various members on this message board instigated this discussion. Many were former LG
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9 years ago
corboy
Hard to say. We had some discussion about a different farm setting. If people have to fly through a lot of time zones to reach your place, this can be disorienting for some. If others are not used to outdoor work/hot weather, dehydration can be a real issue, and one can get quite loopy if dehydrated. Ive seen this happen on sports events. If people are very, very dependant on electr
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9 years ago
mood: crisis
I'm reading Coercion: Why We Listen to What "They" Say by media theorist Donald Rushkoff, who cites the following, referencing the CIA's KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation manual: QuoteAs the minutes, hours, or days go by, the "sights and sounds of an outside world fade away, its significance is replaced by the interrogation room, its two occupants, and the dyna
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9 years ago
openmindedsceptic
More on how sleep/dream deprivation leaves one vulnerable. This is important information whether you're still involved in a cult or trying to heal after leaving. The Importance of Sleep, and the Hazards of “Dream Deprivation” July 13, 2014 |97,132 Story at-a-glance To determine whether you’re getting enough sleep, assess the quality of your waking day. If your energy is stead
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10 years ago
corboy
Do background research on the group. If they tell you not to go on the internet -- its a red flag. Go on the internet and research them. Use search terms like cult, abuse, money, scam, etc. Here is a first hand report by someone named luckyescapee who trusted his gut and extracted himself from an LGAT named the Mankind Project. Keeping in mind what luckyescapee wrote, here is advice f
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10 years ago
corboy
A free paper in a cover story, Punishment by Design: The Power of Architecture Over the Human Mind, contains an interview of an architect who wants the American Institute of Architecture (AIA) to make a statement against its members assisting to design prisons. This article offers some insights on how physical setting affects human relationships in subtle but powerful ways. Most of us are
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11 years ago
corboy
Zeitgebers are being investigated in relation to bipolar affective disorder. QuoteIn subjects who work, it is common to observe a worsening of depressive mood at the beginning of the week, when social rhythms have been lost during the weekend and have not yet been retrained by professional constraints (Monday mornings). QuoteA certain number of other arguments highlight the clear
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11 years ago
corboy
A great new word. Zeitgeber. Quote from the article. "Because the internal clock relies on zeitgebers to set itself, a lack of such cues can be very disorienting, which explains why people have trouble sleeping in strange places, or experience a disruption of appetite or personality while traveling. Many such cues are so subtle that people don't realize how influential they ar
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11 years ago
corboy
"An Executive Development Seminar" "Project Formulation" "Special Evening" "Breakthrough 200" -quoted from below (note: Some quite helpful programs unaffiliated with Landmark may go by these names. Nevetheless, even if told by a boss or supervisor or trusted friend to go to a multiday seminar that you are told nothing else about - fact check first. Any
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12 years ago
corboy
QuoteThe Rhetoric of Casino Architecture Design for Service points out a page on casino design in this archeological history of slot machines (by William Choi and Antoine Sindhu). Other features of the casino, including the music, carpeting, and even the air conditioning system, are manipulated to the casino’s advantage. Studies have shown that carpeting is often purposefully jarring to t
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12 years ago
corboy
For information about how we have discussed LGATs and disruption of circadian rhythms, read these citations. Many LGATs take place in rooms where the windows are closed, drapes pulled, no clocks to mark the passage of time. The human brain and body rely seeing sunlight and its changing patterns. These in turn affect the melatonin secretion. Pay especially close attention to the article
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13 years ago
Stoic
While I think it is all too easy to get paranoid and see a dastardly manipulative hand behind every temperature fluctuaction, there is no doubt that big money businesses such as LGAT's, with no product to exchange for the high cash investment, themselves invest a lot in controlling the environments and the customers to squeeze every last available cent from the customer. They are, after a
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13 years ago
caligari
QuotecorboyHmmm, that paper by Kopp is no longer available online. (Smile) Just make sure, whenever you find something that informative, to always make a copy. Mr. Kopp looks to be at Rowan University and has taken the paper off the net: : ================= I wish to inform those of you in search of my 2003 paper “Invisible Bodies, the Disinherited, and the Production of Space in
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13 years ago
OutofTransition
I haven't had a whole lot of experience with LGAT's--when you don't have a lot of money to throw around, you tend not to sign up for these sort of things as they can be rather expensive, and frankly they don't sound like anything I'd go for anyway, but it is easy to jump to conclusions. Recently I attended a conference put out by Skillpath Seminars, which I found pretty
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13 years ago
corboy
Hmmm, that paper by Kopp is no longer available online. (Smile) Just make sure, whenever you find something that informative, to always make a copy.
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13 years ago
Stoic
As the link no longer works I googled the Drew Kopp article on room environment, mentioned at the beginning of this thread, and came across this intriguing site that posits a physiological conflict-- subliminal distraction--as the trigger for psychotic breaks in LGAT environments. I haven't read the whole site but the premise seems logical and the site provides substantial back-up ev
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13 years ago
Stoic
'Supermarket chains don't just encourage impulse buying' Agreed. I think the point that I am trying to illustrate, with the casino and supermarket examples, is that the process is entirely economically driven. The whole environment and everything that happens in it is minutely scrutinised and then controlled and scripted as much as is currently possible with the sole intention
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13 years ago
reptar
I've just gone through the City of Sydney website, there's only DAs dating back to 2008 on there. If I lived in Sydney I'd probably go into the council and see if I can check their archive.
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13 years ago
reptar
QuoteStoic'In passing, I heard someone mention there is speciality known as casino design or casino architecture.' My info may be somewhat dated now but at one time there was a University set up in Vegas, funded by the big dogs, to study such subjects a 'casino architecture'--- which wasn't about the building of a mock Venice or mini Paris but was concerned with ways
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13 years ago
Stoic
'In passing, I heard someone mention there is speciality known as casino design or casino architecture.' My info may be somewhat dated now but at one time there was a University set up in Vegas, funded by the big dogs, to study such subjects a 'casino architecture'--- which wasn't about the building of a mock Venice or mini Paris but was concerned with ways to manipul
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