Below are some real reviews of this book, from people who happen to be bird lovers who bought the book. The thing the average person doesn't understand, is that Ching Hai is not "crazy". Doing weird things like putting birds in fur coats, and having them talk gibberish, is believe it or, a technique that can be used. Its actually a very sophisticated subject, and clearly Ms Chi
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Inducing Confusion is a deliberate technique. Search Google for: "the confusion technique" Of course, that technique has long been abused by sects and cults, as it destabilizes people. They want to destabilize all your beliefs, so they install their beliefs. If you believe what they want you to believe, then they control your behavior, and even control your mind. That is the essen
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Inducing BOREDOM is a technique in hypnosis, like inducing confusion. Many of them have talked how in conventional church through repetition of material, people go into a Trance. Same with many rituals. So boring the shit out of you, is a way to put you into a suggestible state of "hypnosis" which just means you are more open to accept their Suggestions. Then they give suggestions to
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Its absolutely true that Kevin Hogan would be laughed out of the actual NLP hypnosis field. (unless they though they could make some money letting him do the marketing). So the Kevin Hogan's move to fleecing the general public, who know nothing about it. Ross Jeffries has chimed in on the James Ray situation, on the Guruphiliac blog. There are some mentions in these forums too. Jame
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One hates to bring the name of Dr. Milton Erickson into this nightmare of manipulation, but unfortunately many people have created a GROTESQUE PERVERSION his knowledge, which was used in clinical hypnosis, with the intent of helping people. This has been discussed in great detail in the Byron Katie thread, as she also uses those same techniques. Everyone is using them these days. Its an abso
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A very common cultic technique, is INDUCING CONFUSION. It works like magic. They put out confusing, and nonsensical "content" and their people try to make connections out of it. It lures people in. They create a fog of confusion, then the the leader leads the confused masses where he wants. Its standard stuff. That is why as soon as they start blowing smoke, and creating a fog o
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Having seen countless sects like Desteni, its very obvious that Bernard Poolman is simply using one of the most basic techniques in creating a sect. Inducing Confusion. One of the primary techniques, is to literally just screw with people's minds and their belief systems, to CONFUSE them. The sect leader creates a FOG of confusion around people's minds, and challenges all of the
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Bernard Poolman and Desteni deliberately puts out reams of confusing disinformation about themselves. Its part of the Desteni tactic of trying to screw with people's minds. An example of that kind of dishonesty is seen above, when a Desteni person is asked if they believe in "lizard people", they say NO. But in fact they do believe in the lizard delusion, but just reframe the wor
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And of course, in Bernie Poolman's own (deliberate confusion-inducing) text above he says... QUOTE: "I must stop at nothing and no-one and thus I must be able to stand as all life – meaning, that the answer must prove itself, that when all of life apply it as one, we will be equal and one and live in harmony as God. I understand clearly that such a point of God/creator existed within
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And of course James Ray continues on with his Twitter propaganda persuasion. ---------------- QUOTE: "Many misunderstand "If you know the laws of the universe you'll never have challenges, difficulties, upsets" yet no tradition teaches this" ---------------- James Ray is telling a brazen bald-faced whopper of a lie, right there. The book The Secret which made him fa
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The Byron Katie July 22, 2009 Facilitator teleconference needs to be looked at much closer. As mentioned, there is some very disturbing material in it. But also, the rambling, confused speaking pattern, also gives some clues. Its her general strategy of inducing confusion in the listener, and that is a common pattern. And at the same time there is a confusing and rambling delivery, th
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This post by jgf75 needs to be looked at a bit closer, its very revealing. That jgf75 post was addressed here previously, and it is full of errors, with false information about hypnotherapy, and actually serves to expose an agenda. The first question is, who might jgf75 be? Its clearly someone who is doing some spin-doctoring for Byron Katie, as instead of dealing with the careful
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There are quite a few links with Jack Kornfield and Gurdjieff, and Kornfield does talk about Gurdjieff. and that connects with Michael Katz, who is/was Jack Kornfield's agent, and close associate with Byron Katie. All of these types of guru's, all have backroom "teachings" which they share only with eachother in private, which are very different than the stuff for the pu
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its interesting having a glance at the Guruphiliac thread about Byron Katie. Its the most active thread there, approaching 20% of all the posts in that forum. The original poster in that thread, posted some obviously honest, and thus very damaging information about the Byron Katie LGAT seminar. Even though they don't appear to have much experience with LGAT seminars, and were just repor
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Thank you for posting this video link! Which year is that video from? Byron Katie obviously has studied the U.G. Krishnamurti anti-guru non-message message, very carefully, you can see that in the tape, as she knows his material very well. She studied all these guy's material. You can see how clever she is in that video. Its good to see that video, before she polished her image, talking-
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Thanks for posting that text, it can be analyzed. Most of her books appear to be online, and on torrents. One point of hope in this, is that most people do think that Byron Katie is manipulative and weird when they first come across her. Expecially people who are not naturally "mystical". She is not as popular as they are trying to make her, her books at the library have few hol
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also, in ancient times, Nature and reality was a complete mystery, so basically no one knew anything, so that is why they preached the ideas of No-Mind, and just shutting the mind down. These days in the modern world, the use of the paradoxical statements, is one that is also used to Induce Confusion in the subject. (every hypnotist does that now). Just think, if a subject is given dozens o
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also, in ancient times, Nature and reality was a complete mystery, so basically no one knew anything, so that is why they preached the ideas of No-Mind, and just shutting the mind down. These days in the modern world, the use of the paradoxical statements, is one that is also used to Induce Confusion in the subject. (every hypnotist does that now). Just think, if a subject is given dozens o
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one other thing before it slips away.. Janaki has a wonderful detailed recollection of how her conversion to Byron Katie happened. What's wonderful is that Janaki does not appear to know what "hypnosis" is, but her description could be in a textbook! Put it this way, if you are getting "tunnel vision", and things are moving in "slow motion"...that's a clu
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yes, this is a strange video, she is not in top form there. Notice how she is staring in that guys eyes from inches away. But he does make a good point that all BK is doing, is mirroring everything back on the person. That is the problem, when you are mirroring EVERYTHING back on yourself. That is a cognitive distortion called Personalization, (or over-personalization, and that is proven to le
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In the DVD extras, there are some more clips of Werner Erhard. (its torture to watch this guy, but...) In the first 2 clips, he is doing straight-up Timeline manipulation, which comes right out of hypnosis. He is doing it as plain as day. He is talking about files from the past in your mind, being in the future, and taking the past files from the future and putting them in the past, so the fu
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well, finally saw this infomercial DVD from the library. (never give these folks 1 penny). Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard (2006) Robyn Symon Rick Ross is in this movie!! Rick Ross appears as the lone-critic of Werner Erhard and EST on planet earth. It was very comical how they "framed" Rick Ross's criticism about the "re-victimization" of peo
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Bluesky: You have mentioned a lot of things, here is a quick response. You probably have not read the entire thread, as its so long. But I have written out specific self-imaging techniques that can help and empower people to not allow people like Katie to influence them so much. But one can't just only look at the blue sky, one has to look at the shit too, so you don't step in it.
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as far as hypnosis, it can all get very complicated, but in the end, hypnosis is simply "inward focussed attention". So any type of storytelling/myth is a form of hypnosis. All of the old-style hand waving, swinging watches, and the rest of it, is all superstition, and is not needed. What is needed is LANGUAGE and IMAGES. So that is literally all Byron Katie and Eckhart Tolle do t
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