Hey Jim Dodds,
...why don't you do The Work on your own comments?
According to Byron Katie, your comments are really all about YOU, right?
According to your own alleged practice of the Work, your thoughts are NOT true, and you should question them, and erase them, and do a turnaround on them, right?
So that would make your thoughts...paranoid, angry, defensive, misleading, etc. Right?
So that would mean that The Work, is not working then?
Also, you say the BK seminar is absolutely nothing like described by others? Again, that conflicts 100% even with The Work, as you can believe whatever you experience, right? There is no reality or truth according to Byron Katie, except the one she tells you, that is.
(of course the reports are all factual, and carefully spelled-out, and have been proven).
so if we were Byron Katie, we would just Turnaround all your thoughts on YOU, and blame YOU for being so paranoid, angry, defensive, and misleading...right? According to Byron Katie, this is 100% your fault, as you are arguing with reality, and so you lose 100% of the time.
According to BK, can't you see its all about you?
Now of course we know that Byron Katie is a manipulator, and that the Work by Byron Katie is a manipulative system, and is false, deceptive and damaging to many people.
QUOTE: "Do you think that someone sees Katie as not human?"
Jim, why are you trying to deny what Byron Katie says in her own books? She clearly represents herself as a type of "walk-in" spirit, and even as some type of WomanChrist. Of course, she hires other people to say these things about her, and then says in her writings that "others" say she is some enlightened being. Its a mind-game she plays.
Also, her partner Michael Katz has said she is like Mary Poppins, who is a supernatural being from another dimension. He said it in print.
["was it Mary Poppins crossed with a Zen master?"] [
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So why are you not being honest about something that is in print? Isn't that a little strange?
There are several more false statements in the comments by Jim Dodds.
He says its a "consensus trance" but there is no hypnosis! Hypnosis is about Trance states. So again, a false statement, proven by his own comment!
It has been detailed in these threads that Byron Katie is doing a very sophisticated and powerful forms of deep covert persuasion. That is a FACT. Just waving your hands is not going to change that.
You say the Work can "end suffering. Completely. Forever."
That is not brainwashing? That is not fanaticism? That is not utterly false?
Of course it is. You cannot end suffering completely, forever, that is extreme fanaticism at best, and is dangerous dishonesty and deception.
there is massive pressure to socially conform, people have given away valuable items as has been proven, people are not eating for up to 2 days and having too little protein, (which is a brainwashing technique by the way).
Byron Katie is an expert at trance and waking hypnotherapy, using Strange Stories.
Byron Katie has constructed a large cultic organization around her.
Money, there is massive amounts of money involved due to the greed of Byron Katie and Stephen Mitchell. They set the prices.
But regardless, these posts by Jim Dodds are important.
They show that some of the people who get deeply involved in promoting The Work either to get approval from Byron Katie, or for money, can be very extreme, and even fanatical.
Saying the Work can "end suffering. Completely. Forever." is an absolutist, extremist statement, which also happens to be utterly false.
So this is why people have to be very suspicious of all of the BKI people, and avoid those who are deeply indoctrinated into the BK system.
They will brazenly deny objective reality and facts, they don't even apply The Work to themselves but expect others to do so, and their comments even conflict with their own comments.
They clearly have no regard for objective facts.
They constantly attack others for criticizing Byron Katie, yet Byron Katie makes millions and she provides ZERO EVIDENCE for ANY of her claims, and has fabricated her backstory. Why not question Byron Katie? Because they have been programmed not to.
So this is yet more hard evidence to avoid BKI people at all costs, whether they appear soft and sickly-sweet, or whether they are aggressive.
Can you imagine what would happen, if a person was deeply confused about what was happening to them in the Byron Katie thought-reform system, and they were met with this type of response, or the type of confusion tactics from Stephen Mitchell?
[manipulative tactics from Stephen Mitchell in email] [
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Its not possible to even have a proper discussion with them, as they don't even apply the BK Work to themselves, and they certainly don't follow the rules of evidence.
Their primary tactic when dealing with the mountain of hundreds of FACTS about Byron Katie, is to try to DENY them all at once, usually using an Ad-Hominem tactic, and extreme overgeneralizations, based on false-statements. Frankly, that is the only thing they can do, as they CANNOT deal with the objective facts one by one. They have to try and deny them.
They can't deal with the hundreds of facts, so they attempt to make extreme overgeneralizations based on false-comments, which they hope will short-circuit the thinking processes of BK followers who are confused about what is happening to them.
[Warning: about the manipulation and persuasion tactics of Byron Katie spin-doctors] [
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2009 06:06AM by The Anticult.